Natalie Robehmed

But she's made her point, which is Emily is publishing things.

You know, again, there is a standard of knowingness, right? Do you actually trust this person before you throw it out on sort of what Natalie was saying before? She says non-pleased, right? The idea is this is for entertainment.

I mean, you hear that on a lot of shows now.

Like they'll, you know, or put in their show notes like, hey, this is entertainment.

[upbeat music] From Sony Music Entertainment and Campsite Media, this is Infamous.

I'm Natalie Robehmed.

And I'm Vanessa Grigoriadis.

So as you may have seen, there is a new documentary out about Elon Musk.

Yeah.

Allegedly.

Do you like her music? Do you like her music? Na- Natalie is a DJ.

Yes.

I have felt so weird not being able to comment on some of the things that have been going on, and I'm really excited to get back into it.

And for that, I called on a friend of the pod, a friend of mine, a friend who I actually met through the pod, Natalie Robehmed, who hosts the podcast Infamous about America's most infamous scandals.

She is a longtime investigative journalist and an all-around genius.

She hosts Infamous with Vanessa Grigoriadis, who is a writer that I've covered many times on the show.

And her and Vanessa just took on Tom Cruise and his GQ profile, so it only felt right that I bring Natalie on to unpack it with me.

So let's uncover Tom Cruise with the incomparable Natalie Robehmed.

Oh, and very quickly, bonus episodes will be starting up again on Substack.

For those Patreon subscribers who have been asking for it, they will live over there from this week onwards.

[upbeat music] From Sony Music Entertainment and Campsite Media, this is Infamous.

I'm Natalie Robehmed.

And I'm Vanessa Grigoriadis.

So I don't know if you've noticed this or not, but Tom Cruise is on a press tour.