Naoto Ohshima

Yeah.

And that was, and that did not make it into the game proper, but right from the beginning, I guess Naoto Ohshima and the gang were like, "No, Sonic needs to be the coolest guy ever, and to do that, he needs his own Jessica Rabbit.

He needs-

Yeah

... from Sonic against Baldur from God of War 2018.

Uh, Dr. Ivo Robotnik, also known as Dr. Eggman, or simply Eggman, Kayla, is a character created by the Japanese game designer Naoto Ohshima And the main antagonist of Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog, um-

Thank you.

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It's the perfect gadget punchline to a hedgehog launch week.

So the game, uh, Sonic the Hedgehog was built by Sonic Team at Sega in Japan with Yuji Naka on the code, Naoto Ohshima, uh, drawing that spiky blue mascot, and Hirokazu Yasuhara designing the levels.

You run right, you jump, you curl into a spin attack, and you grab golden rings.

Take a hit, and the rings spray everywhere.

It's so weird.

So it's Naoto Oshima, Sega mascot concepts from 1990, and it's like a blue Fleischer bunny, which was Sonic originally.

They had to figure him out.

But then the other one is like Sleepy Dr. Robotnik.

And he did design Amy Rose in Sonic CD.

I guess I get a little confused because, I mean, I think Oshima had a hand in it and Amy Rose debuted in the manga version.

you know, in the middle of 92.

So did Hoshino create her first? I feel like there's a little bit of confusion and I'm probably just forgetting some random interview where it was clarified.

Twisted? But then I don't...

It's like...

Because I guess what I'm trying to say is it's like you have this cartoon character that's drawn by Japanese cartoonist Naoto Oshima to accomplish the goals of Yuji Naka and Yasuhara, whose first name is...

Hirokazu.