Tell me more.

You know, I think part of that stems from the knowledge of being classroom teachers, and I was a school counselor for, for most of my career, but knowing how intentional we had to be about creating the type of classroom culture that would give us the type of, of results that we were hoping for.

You know? What did...

How did, how did you want your kids to feel when they walked into your classroom? What did you want learning to feel like for them? What did you want relationship to feel like for them? And, you know, as we talked, Stephen and I, after our retirement, and we were...

Our plans for what we wanted to do together, it was like, you know, families have that same opportunity.

Every group of people has a culture.

It doesn't matter.

Mm.