Mykhailo Fedorov

Did it come from loyalty programs in banking?

Uh, no, it was on one, um, it was one meeting and, uh, Mykhailo Fedorov, uh, suggested, "I have a idea." And we started to discuss, and the, a number of people were involved.

In very, uh, short period of time, uh, we launched marketplace and then parallel, uh, the system of, uh, calculating bonuses.

The technology stack, can you explain, uh, for listeners and to myself what Delta is?

That's an increase of nearly fifty percent on the nearly thirty-two thousand losses Russia took in January.

Now you'll remember January was when the then Defense Minister Mykhailo Fedorov said Ukraine needed to kill fifty thousand Russians per month, arguing that losses on that scale would seriously impact Moscow's ability to sustain the war.

Next, and a story to look at in Politico.

The Trump administration is leaving several major NATO allies out of a semi-formal gathering of some alliance members next month in Poland after previously threatening to use a naughty and nice list for governments that have not danced to Donald Trump's tune.

It basically posits the two models of a future Ukrainian army and potentially European army.

One more traditional, if you like, traditional tactics and weapons championed by, uh, General Oleksandr Syrskyi, the other championed by Mykhailo Fedorov, the tech-technological superiority using novel weapons, unconventional tactics.

Innovation.

Yeah, new procurement models, decentralization, all that kind of stuff.

But of course, that's only thirty percent, so it means the other seventy percent is still heavy metal, the last six inches of defense policy made of steel, a bayonet, all that kind of stuff.

So they're saying, look, it's always gonna be a mix.

There's-- It's not one or the other, but it, it is interesting to see the traditional view, the Syrskyi view of how to win a war is to kill all the enemy soldiers and capture all the ground, and the more transformational view, the Mykhailo Fedorov view, drones and unmanned systems, all this kind of stuff, is to smash the enemy's economy and increase the domestic cost, bring the war home to the enemy to make sure or to make them realize it's not worth it.

So like I say, it's not one or the other.

I will take you through those because one follows from the other.

What, what General Dhirendra Seth said fo-fo-follows into what former Ukrainian Defense Minister Mykhailo Fedorov said just the other day, just a couple of days back.

It was his definition or redefinition of the battlefield.

And then a very detailed, exhaustive reading of an article, a lead article by Dan Driscoll.

Within the action there will be pauses, otherwise the pressure will be rel- relentless.

These are my words.

Then we, then we look at what the Ukrainian former defense minister said, that Mykhailo Fedorov.

He said that 2022 we unleashed an army of drones.

So just so that we can get some perspective on this first.

okay so this is from Mikhailo Fedorov the Minister of Defense of Ukraine isn't he like the third or fourth one now like they've swapped out

I love how it when he says that in his profile says 2026 right next to it yeah

yeah that is funny and he was the um looks like the Minister of digital transformation of Ukraine

Um, it's...

To, to what extent do you think that, that we're going to see that in the political landscape as well, um, uh, in terms of new parties, new projects, um, or, or other existing parties pivoting towards it? Are, are we going to see...? Because the taboo of talking about elections was broken a month ago, um, by, uh, by ex-defense minister, uh, Mykhailo Fedorov.

Um, will other taboos be broken over the next couple of months?

We will see.