Music industry

everything in the long run and like that ripple will continue um both artistically and just think how you almost like philosophically um that's yeah that i think that's but that's a cool thing that micro

soapbox moment the biggest problem with the music industry is that it doesn't care about live music that it doesn't want difference That the goal of, like, biggest touring musicians and arenas is to get it as close to perfection every time.

Yeah.

That there's no room for that nuance.

It's not music.

To use the most hated word that is still...

At the end of the day, just a word, and it feels funny or strange to almost not quite reclaim that, but that is just an objective word, even if it has become so poisoned by the industry and by how digital life and the music industry and major labels and just labels in general and that whole wing of things that... that was came from just the same seed of making music and wanting to share it with people and has become this vast contorted web of vines and thorns and whatnot even if it just came from the root desire that makes so much that makes people want like that's why we want to make music it's and and go beyond just like playing something and mess around with something in our in our bedrooms and Like, I want to record this.

I want to share this with people.

We have Theo from Unplug Em for an absolutely incredible conversation about his journey from growing up in a family of practicing warlocks to becoming a soldier for Jesus Christ.

Theo takes us deep into the Detroit hip hop scene, sharing shocking stories about alleged occult rituals in the music industry, hidden spiritual messages in popular songs, demonic encounters, and his firsthand experiences confronting What he believes are territorial spirits operating over entire cities.

But what makes this conversation so powerful isn't just the darkness Theo exposes.

It's his remarkable testimony of how Jesus Christ transformed his life, turning a man who was once pursuing the occult into someone who now is fighting against the very forces he once sought to understand and utilize.

I'm not that smart.

You know, I was goofy enough to be walking right into the web.

You know, I wanted to be in the devil's system, what we call the music industry.

It's his system.

So now Interscope is suing her for trying to leave, seeking $50 million in profits lost on albums that Summer has still not delivered to them.

So there was this 1987 exemption to the seven-year rule, which was lobbied by the music industry, by the way.

which lets labels do this so that they can try to get back some of the profit that they lose when these record deals are not actually completed.

So this is quite messy.

So this is something that is happening.

I think what's really interesting about this is it seems like, based on what we've seen from this lawsuit, that Summer Walker had a five-album deal.

And a five album deal is quite customary historically in the music industry.

But in the last few years, we've started to see record deals get way more flexible than that and way more short term.

My name is Alex Session and this week I'm joined by therapist and counsellor Denise Devenish who works with musicians and creatives.

We talk about the pressures of working in the music industry, financial insecurity, burnout, creative blocks and the complicated relationship between creativity and mental health.

It's a really thoughtful conversation about looking after ourselves whilst pursuing the things that we love.

We hope you can get a lot from it and ultimately we hope you enjoy it.

So I'm a counsellor, therapeutic mentor.

I had clinical training in the NHS.

I worked with young people for a long time and then I made the shift to work in the music industry exclusively.

So for the past eight years, I've only worked with therapeutically in private practice, supporting musicians, artists and music industry professionals.

And that is absolutely the thing that would honor Dolly the most.

Because everything you've read about her, even with all of her talent, and I know this with you being in the music industry, I mean, it's always Imagination

Library.

Yes.

I lived in her district when she first ran for the state legislature.

So I've known Marsha a very, very long time.

But the music industry has been begging for help.

So