Musa al-Kadhim

But two other sons of Ja'far... will define the legacy of what are now the largest and second largest Shi'i denominations in the world, the Twelvers, the Ifna'ashari, and the Ismailis.

So, two of Jafar's other sons who did have offspring were called Ismail and Musa al-Kazim.

Ismail died before his father.

Again, this isn't supposed to happen according to some shi'i of the time.

I'm talking about people like the Druze, for example.

And we look forward to discussing them in some detail.

on the podcast meanwhile if we take the other branch from jafar and follow his son musa al-kazim as the imam we have six more imams so that's 12 in total from ali to the final imam muhammad al-mahdi who disappeared in the year 260 hijri or 873 to 4 ce so well into the abbasid 9th century Now, some would say that he died, but the Ithna Asharis would not say that.

They would say he went into occultation.