Murad Awawdeh

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Another ca- uh, point that the caller made, Gwen, um, and I'll quote here Murad Awawdeh, who runs the New York Immigration Coalition, who told The Intercept that even if the NYPD isn't helping ICE detain people under the sanctuary laws, they're still helping them move freely around the city and carry out their operations.

He said they'll not cooperate or work with ICE, ICE on immigration enforcement, but then when they do crowd control, it does end up becoming collusion because then you're still helping them do the thing you're not supposed to be doing.

For you as an immigration journalist, is that accurate as far as you know?

Many state lawmakers tell me they are very worried about the level of fear among communities and the aggression used against immigrant New Yorkers.

We sat down with Murad Awawdeh, the president of the New York Immigration Coalition, to talk about what the severity of this issue currently looks like in the state, recently implemented state immigration policies, and how the state is responding.

Here's that conversation.

Thank you so much for sitting down with us, Murad.

Thank you again for talking with us about this important topic.

Thank you for having me.

And we were speaking with Murad Awawdeh, president of the New York Immigration Coalition.

Now turning to another important topic.

That shortens the review process and removes the City Council's final vote, which leaves the City Planning Commission with the final say.

Community boards and borough presidents will still get a chance to weigh in, but this new process takes effect in January.

And the rent freeze in the city takes effect today, even as the legal fight over it continues.

Landlords are suing the city to try and get the rent freeze overturned.