Mule Variations

It felt real, like I could sing it and do justice.

House Where Nobody Lives that you just played, I think it's my favorite song of his from his Mule Variations album.

I remember when the album came out, I really loved that song and honestly, I don't know, I would assume many people are, but I've always been fascinated by abandoned homes.

If I'm driving or walking by and you just see broken windows and overgrown weeds or boarded up windows, I really stop and I've taken pictures of them over the years and fascinated by the stories that what, what, like what happened there, you know, like where did the people go? What was going on in their lives? How did it end up like this? I find it real.

There's a studio that was also built out of originally like a chicken coop barn or something.

So that was, that was an interesting coincidence.

Yeah, I was reading that Tom Waits actually recorded mule variations, which you referred to earlier, at a chicken shack, which is interesting, or a former chicken ranch.

Yeah, there is a certain, I mean, it's almost like the, you know, if you believe in this, it sounds like through all of this, through every step of this project, the universe has kind of guided you and things have come together sort of intuitively.

But if you were doing a shallow dive, pick two.

If you want to keep the surface, just put on Mule Variations, 1999, the whole album.

If you click with it, go past the first track, which is a bit odd.

It's always got an odd track in the albums.