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Search complete. 5 mentions across 4 episodes found for "Muddy Waters Research".
Oct 20, 2026
Luckin Coffee Fraud Explained! What ACTUALLY Happened!
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3:39Bill HannaHOST
Obviously, this is a new startup and they were losing money.
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3:42Bill HannaHOST
For example, in Q3, 2019 they had losses of about 73 million dollars obviously because they were spending so much money on sales and marketing as well as offering deep discounts and their products so they were turning a huge loss at the end by toward the end of 2019 Now we take a look at the events that unfolded in 2020 and this began in January of 2020 with a famous short seller by the name of Muddy Waters Research that published an article saying that they received an anonymous tip that told them that Luckin Coffee basically is a fraud and that all the sales numbers are fabricated and made up.
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4:24Bill HannaHOST
And immediately after that article came out, Luckin Coffee came out and denied these allegations very strongly.
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4:32Bill HannaHOST
And then a couple of months went by.
This Tweet Cost Traders $136 Billion
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10:15Hamish HodderHOST
Impersonated Twitter accounts aren't anything particularly new.
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10:18Hamish HodderHOST
Way back in 2013, this account posing as the Muddy Waters research firm made a series of tweets that claimed a company named Audience Incorporated was under federal investigation.
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10:31Hamish HodderHOST
The company's stock price collapsed from $12.35 to $8.87 as the fake account was posting, a 28% drop, which was so violent it triggered the exchange's circuit breaker and halted trading.
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10:45Hamish HodderHOST
The reason traders reacted so strongly to these fake tweets is because Muddy Waters is a very prominent short selling firm.
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10:52Hamish HodderHOST
They put out research on companies they're confident will decline, and this fake Twitter account looked somewhat like the real one if you weren't looking too closely.
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11:02Hamish HodderHOST
The man behind the account was James Alan Craig.
AlphaNooner - Question Everything: QTR's Chris Irons on AI, Markets and What Others Miss
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2:27Chris IronsGUEST
And from there, kind of discovered some of these short sellers that were busting a lot of US-listed China-based frauds.
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2:38Chris IronsGUEST
So you had people like Muddy Waters and Geo Investing first starting to release these reports on companies that were demonstrable frauds, China-based companies that were listing in the US.
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2:51Chris IronsGUEST
You had, you know, uh, Sino-Forest, you had Longwei Petroleum, uh, companies that, you know, were worth zero but were getting $100 million, billion-dollar valuations on US equity markets.
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3:03Chris IronsGUEST
And as an English major and an investigative, you know, journalist kind of, uh, uh, enthusiast, those reports really I found fascinating.
The Raven has Landed
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4:25Chris IronsGUEST
And so really got way more of an understanding as to how things worked.
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4:30Chris IronsGUEST
And from there, while I was up there, uh, working for that company, which ultimately wound up going under, I started to read critical reports by short sellers, namely GeoInvesting, Muddy Waters, uh, Carousel, all these people that were publishing on US-listed China-based, uh, reverse takeover scams.
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4:53Chris IronsGUEST
And I could not believe that these things were trading.
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4:56Chris IronsGUEST
I could not believe that the numbers were just made up, and not just the numbers, but the narratives.