Moral development

Science also tells us that in a child five years of age, the human brain weighs on the average 1,250 grams.

This, too, would bear no relation whatever with the intellectual and moral development of a child of that age and that of an adult man.

Though Cuvier's brain weighed 1,830 grams and Cromwell's 2,230.

That of Tiedemann, the greatest anatomist, when placed on the scales, weighed no more than twelve hundred and fifty-four, and that of Gambetta only one thousand two hundred and forty-six.

She was a professor at Harvard and she's a psychologist and I think maybe, I guess not a sociologist because those are not the same, but she was actually in the department or the school of education.

And the thing that she was interested in was development, more generally speaking, children's development, but one of the things that's interesting, I think, about the book is that she is looking at moral development, like the development of the moral sense, and kind of starts out talking about children, but one of the things she's looking at, which is not original to her, I don't think, because she's quoting other psychologists who've done studies as well, but she's looking at how the moral sense is continuing to develop, basically, through the human life cycle up until what she calls midlife and how the moral sense is still you know kind of a i want to say a moving target but i don't want to say developing again because i just said development

so many times uh yeah so the book came out in

1982 carol gilligan um is famed as the originator or one of the originators of feminist psychology because the main argument of the book is looking at the fact that Freud and then other psychologists who are following Freud's uh description of development in children including the development of the moral sense development of identity how you reach maturity these kinds of things all freud basically writes it about boys and then comes up with his

And then it makes me angry because it feels so hard to be given like such a handicap to being a moral person as like being a man.

And that was very interesting to me because I feel like, so the way that Gilligan frames it, which I find fascinating.

And she does say in the beginning, like these are supposed to be complimentary and are supposed to merge together through different like sort of, she doesn't call them, maybe she does call them like experiences of crisis or experience of, you know, sort of like the culminating moments of whatever in your moral development, which could be a series of moments, obviously, for men and women on the sort of male-coded track versus female-coded track are different, but they each contribute something to an overall understanding of morality, which I think for our society, some of our you know imagined interlock interlock years at least is very important and we'll get to that um but the but it's very interesting because i feel like in general um and i want to put this conversation i want to put this book into conversation with leo labresco's book and the sort of wider you know um catholic and sympathetic feminist sort of internet space publication space that is happening right now it's focused a lot on interdependence and this idea of like responsibility and a duty ethic and you know rights go with responsibilities and all that different kind of stuff um but they're speaking against what they view as a second wave feminism which is interesting because carol gilligan maybe is the tail end of the second wave and maybe she's concerned more third wave i don't know um is this idea that the world that is based on rights and autonomy is one in which women feel themselves to be systematically disadvantaged,

right?

And that six-stage model fits how language development works.

It kind of lines up to some of the literature on moral development, but it's a little more usage-based, I suppose.

And it's kind of built into the psychotherapy work I do.

And I do want to say...