Moominmamma

And the fact that she had this kind of feckless, um, father who was a painter, and so was her mother, but her mother kind of grafted away and kept them all fed and everything, and her father was just, like, off on one grand scheme after another.

So if you know the books, you've got the characters of Moominmama and Moominpappa, and they're like that.

And all that just c- And also the fact that she'd come through World War II in Finland.

Mm.

And, and y- you look at it again, and there's so many stories that are about refugees and people being de- displaced and terrible catastrophes, but Moominmama always makes it okay.

Yes.

And I think that, that there's an enormous comfort in those books for a very young reader.

i'm quite excited because this weekend i'm off to see some moomins Do you remember the Moomins? Yeah, of course, I love it.

Moomin Mama, Moomin Papa, Moomin Baba.

Yeah, and the books are really nice to read, really short, and they're still nice at whatever age.

Because she's really interesting.