Montevideo

I'm your host, Jani Sarajärvi, and this month's Discus Sao takes us to Uruguay.

My guest is Camilo Esperanza Borde, a coach born in Montevideo who has worked in Spain, Brazil, the United States, New Zealand, Ecuador, England, of course his home country Uruguay, and now with Ilves in Finland.

We talk about Carra Charrua, baby football, Luis Suarez, of course, questions related to Uruguay's football culture.

What a small country with three and a half million people can teach other countries looking for their own voice.

And having that curiosity that it's always making me, you know, question things and try to do things in a different way.

Yeah, I think your CV also reflects this kind of curiosity.

You have been in different places in the United States, in many different Barca academies, in Ecuador, in Waikiki City and Independiente, Valladolid, Watford, Liverpool, Montevideo, and now in Finland.

So you have been in different places, and that's kind of a little bit like a non-linear path.

For those who kind of don't know too much about you in that sense or are new to the Finnish League, because we haven't really covered the Finnish League in general, but we started to talk about it a little bit more since my trip.

Obviously, you are a Uruguayan coach born in Montevideo, I understand.

And you've coached around the world, to be honest, in many different countries and places.

As mentioned, when we put out the post about this, your previous role before this was Liverpool Montevideo.

And also you've also had experience in the championship with Watford, of course, as assistant manager there.

So you have a very kind of broad experience as a coach.

So this is the floor where Uruguayan politics happens.

This bourgeois republican liberalism is called vachismo after Jose Valle Ordoñez, who was the president at the start of the 20th century that did great reforms and working rights and state intervention in the economy, plenty of things that up to today, if you walk around Montevideo, you will see the consequences, the good consequences of this republican reformism.

So Metol is a bit of a strange figure because he's a Catholic in a non-Catholic country.

And he grows up in in the same places where i where i of which i talked just now in peronism he got raised in the opposition to bachismo in the far right nationalists in uruguay that is the blanco party the the nationalist party here in your way that is an old party that comes from the 19th century civil war which has is very close to the church so he grows up during the second world war He is against the Alice.

Firstly, because of very radical revolutionary movements in the 19th century, and then because of a massive wave of immigration, mostly from Italy and Spain, but also from Germany, France, Jews from Eastern Europe, from the Arab countries.

And there were a lot of socialist anarchists.

Actually, for example, the first international in the 1870s had some militants here in Montevideo that came from Europe.

So in the state formation here, you have And these big capital cities in Uruguay, Montevideo, that were ports, were from where the raw materials from the countryside were exported.

Is he? Is he? You know he is.

He was hanged in Montevideo

over a year ago.

I know that someone was hanged in Montevideo under that name, but I'll stake my reputation that Moriarty is alive and here, now in London.

Hello? Yes, but Dr.

Watson, wait a minute.

Oh, Professor Moriarty.

Not that I wish to appear inquisitive, but to what am I indebted for the pleasure of this visit? Scotland Yard would be interested.

But a change of government in the 1950s sent the country down a socialist path.

At one point, one-third of the citizens in the country's largest city, Montevideo, worked for the government.

Hazlitt says that, "...once a subsidy, pension, or benefit payment is extended to any group," It is immediately regarded as a right, and it becomes politically impossible to discontinue or reduce it.

So by the late 1960s, Uruguay was in severe financial and fiscal distress.

I remember I was...

We went to Buenos Aires and to Montevideo, Uruguay this year.

And I met a young Russian couple.

And I was sort of guardedly saying, well, what's it like? Because they're from a kind of dictatorship at this point.