Mo Elleithee

And data centers fit so perfectly into this.

Although, Mo, one thing I think, I play therapist here, is data centers really the issue? I mean, I wonder how much of this you think is data centers have just become the target of an anger that is more broadly focused on big tech and the fears about what AI means for jobs.

Yep.

First of all, let me not be dismissive of the data center argument.

I think it's fascinating when you think of data centers like a culture war issue, but it's also not a normal culture war issue.

And yet it fits it perfectly.

Don't you agree, Mo, that this is like a thing you say, everyone knows what you mean.

And I mean, I think it's quickly turning into an 80-20 issue as a culture war issue.

There's so much to talk about with my Friday night panel.

Jason Rantz, host of the Jason Rantz Show, and Mo Elleithee, former communications director for the DNC, both join me now.

All right, Jason, let me begin with you, and welcome.

I haven't had you on the show before.

Well, we'll see with Black voters.

They don't necessarily need a mirror, they need a champion.

Jason Rantz, Mo Elleithee, thank you both.

Appreciate it.

And so let's bring in two people who are great at covering nuance.

Mo Elleithee is here on the left.

Sarah Isgur is away this week on the right, but her colleague, Jonah Goldberg, was willing to come in and hang out with us.

He is co-founder and editor-in-chief at The Dispatch.

... your Rant and Rave about capitalism.

Um, we have to, we have to take a break, but, uh, I do wanna encourage all of you out there to join the Left, Right, and Center Substack because we can keep this conversation going, and we'll send you a weekly inbox reminder to, uh, get honed up on the show and, uh, start the conversation.

You can join at kcrwlrc.substack.com. That is kcrwlrc.substack.com. Jonah Goldberg, Mo Elleithee, and I will come back, uh, talk about, uh, some foreign policy and the president trying to get funding for the U.S. military and having some trouble.

We'll have more Left, Right, and Center coming up.