Mmusi Maimane

When it comes to the ICJ case, I do think that let the courts rule and let South Africa subject itself to that judgment.

How should I think about Mmusi Maimane, or put it in another way, how would you describe yourself? It seems very much as though deracialization of the country is your core belief and your driving force.

Would you agree with that?

Yes, but I would go one step further.

So all these other things of the right-wing political parties which exist to protect white interest and white aspirations, which exist to preserve the apartheid and colonial status quo, have not yet made electoral progress.

You can combine all of them, DA, Freedom Front, and all these other minions that they have formed now of Mmusi Maimane and, uh, that other guy who work- used to work for Business Day.

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And, and yeah, because that, that coalition, how it works and...

But also looking at this emergence, so Herman Mashaba's ActionSA, um, Songezo Zibi's Rise Mzansi, Mmusi Maimane's BOSA-

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... have been very active-

Today, the Standing Committee on Appropriations adopted a report on the second special appropriations bill that allows for the government to transfer 10 billion rands from the National Revenue Fund to the Department of Mineral and Petroleum Resources in an effort to stabilize fuel costs and potentially protect consumers.

We're going to take a closer look at this with the chairperson of the Standing Committee on Special Appropriations in Parliament, Dr. Mmusi Maimane.

He joins me on the line now to see what to make of it.

Doc, lovely having you on the show.

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Having said that, I think names like Mbuyiseni Ndlozi, Mmusi Maimane, um, Mku- Mkuleko Hlengwa, Scopa chairperson, et cetera, should be considered.

Hi, Lebogile.

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So let's see then what work gets underway to really just deal with this issue of accountability.

A lot of things coming out from that conversation, but appreciate your time, Chairperson of the Standing Committee on Appropriations, Dr. Musi Maiman.

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