Sure.

He says, asshole, go play pool.

I walked to the back and there were two tables.

One, I looked over and there was this little gnarly looking guy, really wiry hair, weird.

And I'm going, okay.

And then I turned to the other table and at the other table on the other side of the table facing me was this lightning bolt of a woman.

That's the only way I can put it.

That's really

So tell us a little bit about that.

Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

I'm trying to think about now it's 15 years ago as a golfer and somebody who'd been playing already for 30 years or so, I got into hickory golf and I was very frustrated playing the game.

I was always chasing a lower handicap and longer drives.

And I had a bad attitude.

I was frustrated a lot.

And I was playing in an event at Pinehurst.

really,

That was literally what happened.

That's great.

Brilliant.

And for some reason, at that point, and this changed different times over the years of doing it, but at that point, they were doing all the commentary in post-production.

They would shoot the event, and the commentators would do the commentary in post-production.

The only thing that was required was to do a live opening to kind of set the scene and a closing scene.

All

right, I'll give you the quick rundown.

How did she change your life? What happened? What was the course?

How did she change my life? Not in any ways at all, unless you consider the word everything.

I think that would pretty much cover it.

That covers it.

Literally, there isn't any way that it didn't change my life.

What it first started after we met and spent a year, had that incredible cosmic meeting of getting together up in Seattle.

And by the time we actually had decided to make a move, I was not, other than knowing more about her life and what she did and who she was.

You're

What aspect of the craft did you enjoy the most?

It's an interesting question because there's so many different parts to it that people who aren't acting don't really know.

I think one of the main things, well, the top of the list would be the people that you work with.

And that can be either other actors or directors or that's the top of the list.

And the good ones and the ones that, and again, I absolutely... can't believe that as a kid from Long Island that I got to work with some of the people I worked with.

Never in a million years would that have ever entered my space.

And when I say that, that goes from just people that nobody really would know other than the people that were on some of the shows I did that didn't become very famous, but who I loved working with, to the people that, like I said, the cast of Not Necessarily the News, that whole gang, the production team, and other shows too along the way.

Thank you for that.

it

wasn't easy to do.

It really wasn't.

And she just handed it to me.

She said, get your card and then you're good.

So I did that.

And then little by little started to kind of do some other parts.

He did, didn't he?

And I was over here as well, so I can completely understand.

And I had been out of the house.

I left at 18 to go to college.

And really, pretty much after that, I spent a little bit of time at home after, but pretty much was never home again.

And it was always about what I was doing.

So he was a big Ev, we used to call him.

He was a great guy.

Tell her all about 1968.