Ministry of International Trade and Industry

Right.

And subsequently, you also went to MITI, became a minister there.

Uh, you also implemented the same thing, the same report card, uh, thing that I heard about.

And of course, uh, I have also friends who work in departments and everything all.

They also told me about it.

What are you most proud of after that, when you finish your term there? What are some of the things that continued, uh, or you saw some change that you were able to bring by simply implementing this report card?

Well, one thing good about that report card that we did in MITI is that when we announce policy, major policy like the National Industrial Master Plan, like the National Semiconductor Strategy, the Green Investment Strategy, the Chemical Industry Roadmap, the Steel Industry Roadmap, there are many.

Once announced, we then just, you know, let up to each relevant division to do.

There is a book by Chalmers Johnson, it's called MITI and the Japanese Miracle.

MITI is the Ministry of International Trade and Industry.

Mm.

So, uh, Chalmers Johnson was showing how Japan transformed from a poor society into a, uh, an advanced country.