Mimecast

So email gateways, like things like...

And no disrespect to any of these companies out here, but like your Barracudas, your Mimecast, your Proofpoints, these are, I'll call them legacy players.

They've been around a long time.

They're your traditional email security platforms.

That's especially crucial for any B2B senders out there because you can get blocked.

At Mimecast or Proofpoint or a Barracuda or Cisco, some spam filter, it's maybe 5% of your list, but depending on your list size, it's material.

When I was doing a billion emails a day, I had one brand alone that was about a half or not a day, a month.

I had one brand alone that was a little over half a billion of that.

But also one thing you mentioned is just because it's good for one business doesn't mean it's good for another.

And so I just told Proofpoint, one of our direct competitors was Mimecast.

Mimecast was much cheaper and we knew that.

And it's not like there's anything bad about it.

Sometimes you could just be the cheaper technology and win.

I'm joined by Steve Malone, Chief Product and Strategy Officer at Ironscales, an AI-powered email security platform trusted by more than 17,000 organizations.

Steve has spent two decades in email security, including senior product leadership roles at Mimecast and Egres, so he's had a front row seat to how this threat has evolved.

[upbeat music] Steve, welcome to the show.

You've been in email security for the best part of two decades.