Mike Turner

And you certainly hope that it won't take it happening to someone close to you to actually motivate people to make changes.

And I'll tell you, and unfortunately, I don't even know if I've seen evidence that that makes a difference because Mike Turner's daughter was in the Oregon district the night of the Oregon district shooting.

He's our congressman, our Republican congressman.

So I'm like, what is it going to take? If Uvalde's not enough for you, Sandy Hook wasn't enough for you, It's terrifying to think what would actually be enough.

The Republicans are spending money there.

Mike Turner in Ohio, Trump won there by 7.8. Miller Meeks in Iowa, 8.5 by Trump.

Huizenga in Michigan, 4.

Trump won that by 5.5. And Scott Perry, they're spending money to try to reelect Scott.

I'll take that note in for you to the insurrection.

Perry, where Trump won by 5.2 in 2024.

Scott Perry, Mike Turner, Marionette Miller Meeks.

Marionette Miller Meeks hallucinates at hearings.

And there will be more people like Don Bacon, especially if they got ousted because of the war.

Like I saw that Mike Turner, who used to be in charge of intelligence, and is very much a hawk and very much a fan of NATO, his district is now in play.

Right.

And he's from Dayton.

But I don't know that it's going to be so extreme that not only do Republicans not get the seats that they wanted, but they also lose like they're a net loss like that would be even bigger.

But one state to watch is Ohio, where drawing the map and trying to gain as many seats as possible may cause members like Congressman Mike Kerry and Mike Turner for those districts to be just marginal enough that in a terrible environment for Republicans, the Democrats have an opportunity there.

And so in a state that at one point Democrats, sorry, Republicans probably want to gain three seats that may end up being might be net negative or, you know, lose seats with also some help from Max Miller, who that seat is now in trouble from a completely, you know, his his faults in his behavior and pulling that race into play.

Yeah.

He has fired qualified generals, many African Americans and women, and it has hurt the morale of the military and he presided over extrajudicial killings in the Caribbean.

And the concerns on these have been raised by senior Republicans like Mike Turner, uh, and others on the Armed Services Committee.

Yes, and I know obviously there's been concern about how he's chosen to spend his time when he talks about, you know, warrior ethos or testosterone tests, things like that.

Um, but you talk of at least, uh, 20 Republicans.

Massie, uh, w- who you think may vote to impeach?

Well, I've spoken to Thomas today, and he thinks he can get a few other Republicans.

Uh, I have not spoken, uh, to other Republicans on Thomas' specific, uh, bill today, but I have spoken on the Armed Services Committee, which I sit on, uh, to many Republicans, uh, like Don Bacon, like Mike Turner, who have concerns.

Uh, and look, I don't think this is gonna happen, uh, before the midterm elections.

The Jews have come a long way.

They're way ahead of the Christians now, but 2,000 years ago, it was the, uh, gospel according to Mike Turner.

Jesus shows up, and he treats women as equals, includes them in his ministry.

Um, there was 15 apostles.

The sticking point is at the moment, the people who want to come forward are told that the only institutions that they can come forward to are Arrow, and the PURSUE initiative inside the Defence Department.

And a lot of people, myself included, think it's utterly inappropriate that the Defence Department, the War Department that has presided for 80 years over this alleged cover-up of UAP UFO material, Why should it be involved in determining what the public gets to know, as indeed was the original plan inside the legislation that was stymied by key members of Congress, notably Mike Turner, whose name shall forever live in infamy as the man who suppressed, at the behest of the national security establishment, attempts to provide the public with transparency.

Why should the Pentagon, why should the Defense Department, the War Department be involved in determining what the public gets to know? And so at the moment, President Trump, and this was confirmed by ODNI's Aaron Lucas in July, end of July, they issued an unclassified memorandum, preliminary guidance for implementation of NDA waiver.

And it was released by Eric Burleson, Congressman Eric Burleson on the 1st of August.

You can't tell the public what they're authorised to tell very limited people within the government.

And when people from, let's say, the legacy program want to come forward and they look at who they've got to come forward to, even though I don't doubt the good motives of some of the people in Arrow and some of the people indeed in the Defence Department, there are people in the Defence Department who have willfully presided over a cover-up for many years.

And I just go back to what the original legislation, kiboshed by Mike Turner and others, did.

It was going to create a presidential records review panel composed of independent experts, and those experts were going to adjudicate the release of information publicly.

And Representatives Marionette Miller-Meeks, Mike Carey, Nick Begich, Tom Barrett, Mike Lawler, Zach Nunn, Scott Perry, John James, Derek Van Orden, Brad Finstead, Brian Stile, Ryan McKenzie, Maria Salazar, Jim Jordan, great wrestler, by the way, undefeated in high school.

That's pretty tough, right? And did quite well in college too, right? Gabe Evans, Ashley Hinson, Mike Collins, Rob Bresnahan, Tom Kane, Jen Kiggins, Eli Crane, Ana Paulina Luna, Jeff Crank, Rob Whitman, Andy Biggs, Bill Huizinger, Claudia Tenney, Tom Tiffany, and Mike Turner.

There's a lot of talent there.

You got a lot of...