Mike Spagnola

So they were much, they had a lot more time than I currently do.

The benefit in what I'm doing right now though, and having, you know, Mike Spagnola as the chair or the, president of sema is really beneficial because he's a car guy he's super interested in the industry and super passionate about it just like us so he makes my job really easy um so my job you know as chair is to govern the board of directors and our job is to uh govern mike um where i like to joke uh with mike that i'm his boss um

and technically i guess you kind of are

Yeah, technically, yes.

And I think it's it comes down to do they understand what's going on? And he was he's incredibly charming.

Yeah.

But what I did notice, you know, that he also would listen and he, there was an opportunity, you know, just being at the garage together where, you know, Mike Spagnola, we have another, we had another bill on the table.

And he was able to, you know, talk to Newsom about that.

She started off when she was, I think, 14 or 15, buying Edelbrock and AFB Carter carburetors on Marketplace, and would rebuild them and shoot videos of how she rebuilds them, and then resell them again on Marketplace.

And Mike Spagnola, who's the current CEO of SEMA, somehow she got on his radar, and right after he became CEO of SEMA, it was, I think, that first year, he brought her to the show.

She had never been.

And he brought her up on stage and said...

... like, you know, the seatbelt came from the, the racing industry.

And, um, you know, some of, you know, some of these, these very common things like Mike Spagnola, CEO of SEMA, sold rear-facing cameras before they were in every vehicle.

Yeah.

So, you know, at the end of the day, it's, it's not so much a change in our messaging, it's just a refinement of our messaging.