Mike Small

But to your point, these guys on the amateur level now and the Walker cup, it's, You know, decades ago, it would be like, we don't even know who these guys are.

But now, because of the amount of recruiting at the NCAA level that they do, I mean, look at Mike Small down in Illinois.

And I mean, he brings in so many international players now.

And so as such, a lot of these international players, if not all of them, most of them were playing collegiate golf.

I think ownership when it comes to one's game is very, very important.

You know, having Mike Small on the podcast, he talked about like his job as a coach is letting them take ownership of it and knowing that they have ownership of it.

Like they'll do everything they can, but it's their journey.

It's their shot.

...

Chris Paul the, uh, basketball legend, he had, he was playing for the Rockets at that time with Mike D'Antoni and James Harden, and-

Who was this?

Uh, Chris Paul, CP3.

Like, do you see coaches staying at one place for 30 years anymore? I mean, uh, Brock Bank at, at BYU.

Um, I'm trying to think.

Mike, Mike Small's been there a while.

He's done-

And you also are, because of everything that you've done as a junior, getting opportunity to go to the University of Illinois, which is an NCAA Division I school, college, whatever way you want to say it.

Pretty good under the tutelage of Mike Small.

And...

I want you to tell me, first and foremost, what it was like to be following your dream.

I mean, and then they had this indoor facility that was worth like 20 or $30 million.

So this was just different level to what I had gone to.

And, Obviously, the team's run by Mike Small, who is the most impressive and, you know, sought-after coaches in college golf.

What he's done is incredible.