I

think the industry deserves to know, right? I mean, listen, if you're a horse player, right? How can you bet on a game that's not fair to bet? Whether the CAWs obviously are getting more information, they have access like this, or they have...

You've taken the retail player out.

I would tell every single horse player, go bet a football game.

Go bet a baseball game.

Stay away.

It's just not fair.

What would be your penalty against Marshall Graham?

What was school like for you in general?

Um, other than playing sports, it was torturous.

I mean, I, uh, I won most talk, uh, most talkative for, like, eight straight years.

Um, but ADHD is...

Listen, the biggest weakness of ADHD is lack of focus, and the superpower of ADHD is, is hyperfocus.

So I think, you know, when I talk to kids that have ADHD, I'll, I'll always tell the parent to tell them is you can't force them to love something or like something.

But when they like it and they love it and it's the right thing, they can go really, really far with it.

How did you choose what business you wanted to create and what businesses you wanted to grow? Like, when you left university and then, then what happened? How did you make that choice?

you look at the NFL, obviously different seasons, do you see them as competition or something that this UFL can enhance with trying out different rules, developing players for them? How do you see the relationship with the NFL going?

I think right now, They compliment us.

When 15 million people are watching round one of the NFL draft in April, when our round two and three on a Friday night, 5 million viewers are watching, you know, see who their teams are gonna pick second and third round, you know, I think people want football year round.

It's almost like kids nowadays, they play baseball year round, they play football year round, they have camps year round.

If we can fill the gap between the championship and the NCAAs, which is gonna go until February now, the Super Bowl that keeps is now like mid February and soon maybe moving back further to July 1st when training camp starts.

I think if we can fill March, April, May, and June, I think that would be great.

And I do think that not today, but there's going to be some synergies with the NFL.

Did you help set that in motion?

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... scratched.

And, um, you know, you fall in love with, um, you know, my trainer, Todd Pletcher, I have a great relationship with.

Johnny Velazquez there used to ride Irad Ortiz.

You know, that's the team, and I know Irad and Jose since they were 19, 18-year-old kids.

F- they came from Puerto Rico.

I have a brother who's 15 months younger.

Hmm

Yes.

So s- I mean, let's, let's be honest.

I mean, w- if, if, if, if, uh, if the NBA had to play in a stadium with 80,000 people, they wouldn't sell out.

If the NHL had to play in a stadium with 80,000 people, they wouldn't sell out.

If WNBA...

Like, only football, college and pro, could fill a stadium up to 100,000 people.

So we're not that, and we don't wanna be that.

I got you.

Right.

You know, with ESPN, Fox, Redbird Capital, Danny Garcia, The Rock, and now me, you know, being an entrepreneur who's a disruptor, um, I think it's, I think it's got a great shot.

NFL's on fire.

College football's on fire.

Um, it's just another level right now, and I think people want football year-round.

You know, 15 million people are watching the first round of the draft on ESPN.

Peop- day two, round two and three, five million people.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Listen, I, I...

What, what...

I love John.

I've loved John since I was a kid, uh, when he won a Super Bowl with Tampa Bay.

Listen, what he's done for...

What you guys have done for him has been amazing.

I know the, the CAWs drive me nuts, I know that.