Mike Mentzer

Um-

Because you look at someone like, you know, Mike Mentzer, who's in vogue now again, or even, like, Dorian Yates, you know, who's kind of a disciple of Mentzer and Arthur Jones.

Like, Mike Mentzer was talking about, like, rest periods, pushing to failure.

He was talking about maximum efficiency, minimum effective dose.

Dorian Yates, like, he called his system, like, Blood and Guts, you know, if you ever-

Mm

... entire process.

You'll then get your Mike Mentzer-

But anyway, they are Arthur Jones and Nautilus people through and through.

Uh, they worship at the altar of Mike Mentzer, and, uh, I, I have some thoughts about that.

But these are great, great people.

But they, again, they, they really appreciate the old-school Nautilus stuff, and there's people in their world that, like, they-- I can't remember the individual, but somebody had, like, a museum of old Nautilus gear.

And whatever has come in recent decades, people who are trying to promote these heavy-duty training systems, they have all absolutely failed.

The proponents of heavy-duty training system have never used them themselves, like Mike Mentzer, for example.

They're talking about an amazing improvement of their clients.

Who are their clients? Have you ever seen a single client before and after of Mike Mentzer? I didn't.

Please send me the photos if you come across.

I'll be very grateful.

I mean, it's all calories in versus calories out.

You need to be in a caloric surplus to grow, but I don't, you know, Mike Mentzer, he used to say you only need like an extra 150 calories a day to grow.

That might've been low balling it, but

I don't

I love to receive them, and that way I could give you a better breakdown.

But right now, um, you have to k- kinda do, uh, kinda Mike Mentzer heavy duty type workout, compound movements.

That way you can gain every ounce of muscle that you need-

Yeah

Um, I gotta see those pictures.

You could be the next, you know, Danny Padilla, I don't know.

Giant Killer Mike Mentzer coming up from the back.

I don't know, but I love to see it.

Very frustrating.

And then, uh, do- around the early '80s, right around 1980, I learned about a new guy who was a pro bodybuilder, whose name was Mike Mentzer, and he came out and won the Mr.

Universe contest with a perfect score.

So I was like, well, that guy, this guy is really, really big and doing really well.

You hope he sends you the book that you ordered.

Right.

Then a few weeks later I got his course, you know, this little mail order course, and I talked one of the owners of the gym I was working at into doing it with me, so I had a training partner, and we followed Mike Mentzer's original program to a T exactly as it was written in the book for four months.

Uh-huh.

So a lot of the, the sort of 30 to 40, like I suppose our sort of age group, uh, guys who are like coming in and saying, "Well, now I train more like Ray Mentzer did and all of this." It's like, yeah, dude, but you didn't back in the day when you got really jacked, so.

Mike Mentzer didn't do that, and this is one of the hills I'll die on-

Exactly

... is the people who are claiming that Mentzer built his physique on...

Anybody- if anybody doesn't know who Mike Mentzer is, he's a popular figure.

He's been dead for a very long time.

He was an Arnold-era bodybuilder.