Now, speaking of radio, radio plays music, you went to your first concert with Derren Hinch.

Yes.

And it was? Meatloaf.

Oh! And it was the Bat Out of Hell tour of 1977.

I think that might have been.

And he pushed Alan Foley off the stage during the song.

He actually got a bit carried away with, let me sleep on it, and then just pushed her off the stage.

And so do you have to, let's say, make a mental shift, my clerk, when you go from officiating at a wedding to officiating at a funeral?

Yeah,

that's right.

So I was born and bred in Sydney, the western suburbs.

In fact, I was born in Liverpool Hospital.

And from an early age, I thought I was the fifth Beatle because the Beatles were always known as the Liverpool lads.

And I thought, oh, I'm from the same place as them.

So I'm going to grow up to become a musician.

Selling bras and all that sort of