Mike Kentz

But nine months ago, they were – They were in a totally different business, but it's not just Sally, the adult theme robot, right? Certainly things like Conmigo and other, like just this obsession with AI tutors that can do the work of teachers and the lack of efficacy that we've seen there.

The problem though, is that I think it's a limited view, right? I mean, the mayor's office would be encouraged to listen to the interview we did with Kate Afkali when she talked about specifically designing instruction with AI, where there is human productive struggle, right? And then deep relationship conversations between students and teachers and AI is deployed, kind of what Mike Kentz calls a friction bot.

Then you deploy the AI after productive struggle, after a human conversation.

Then the AI plays a role, and then humans do demonstration.