Mike Heller

So, um, and I noticed like as soon as they came out, I'm like, wait a minute, Charlie, what is going on? Um, but after the first song, Scott Ian basically came out and said that Charlie wasn't able to play, um, And they had a guy named Mike Walker, which is not the guy's name.

It was Mike Heller, who currently he's in a band called Raven.

He was in Fear Factory, and he was in a death metal band called Malignancy back in the day.

Great drummer.

Oh, yeah.

Again, we played with Mike Heller on drums and Frédéric Leclerc on bass.

So, you know, it's a typical file exchange through the Internet.

And we know each other very well because this is the third album we played together.

You know that because it's a great crowd, and we go where they want to see us.

uh talk about um Mike Heller pinch hitting for Charlie a lot this is crazy Frank it's just like um tell us the story he had three four hours how did he learn it what was your involvement

my involvement is getting well let me let me break it down Charlie woke up dude we flew in the night before And Charlie flew.

Charlie flew right next to me.