Mike Harris Jr.

He's a former Toronto City Councillor and, of course, was with the Liberal government, former Liberal MPP for Scarborough Centre.

And he got together with Tim Hudak, who was, of course, the former leader of the Ontario PC's post-Mike Harris and before...

Patrick Brown was, obviously, briefly prior to the 2018 election.

Doug Ford obviously took that seat and won the election and has won two subsequent elections.

Deb, a little bit later on, we're going to be joined by somebody who was the mayor of Toronto, but somebody that you worked very closely with in doing debate prep with.

So Deb was the person who would put John Tory and Mike Harris.

And how many other people have you done this with? Well, I did a

lot of leadership work.

And these are places that should say established 1850, 1860.

No one cares again that Mike Harris drew an L in 2001.

No one cares.

And no one here says I live in Grey Highlands.

So that means our existing businesses, how

can we support them? It relates back to a few of the questions we've already talked about.

So I would say that the main thing is really pushing the history of Not the 25-year-old history of Mike Harris' idiocy, but the 150-year history of these towns.

And the other thing is, like I said before, we really got to keep out the big box and the big chains.

Okay.

And then the world changed because Mike Harris was elected-

Yeah

... and I got involved with, um...

[laughs]

Yeah.

So I think, um, while, while the Mike Harris regime and the push ba- the push against, um, publicly funded education that, that I thought that government embodied, um, was kind of the immediate cause for me being involved.

I can remember in 19...

After rejecting settlement offers of $2 million and $3 million, they did accept a $4 million total settlement in 1998.

And Ontario Premier Mike Harris also apologized on behalf of the province.

In 2001, shortly after they accepted that compensation settlement, Yvonne passed away.

Cecile and Annette lived on, and actually they both died last year, 2025, at the age of 91.

I mean, my riding hadn't voted conservative since I was born, so I'll lose.

But I'll go work for that Mike Harris guy.

He's going to win.

And then I'll go on to do my academic career.