Yeah.

But, um, you know, to, to lose that way.

L- If it had been compet- Like, like it had...

Somehow they just play a meat grinder and they lose 22 to 20 or something you'd be like, "Wow, man, that stinks," but it is.

Um, you know, that's Big Ten football, and w- I think you could eas- more easily just, you know, okay, well, that, that, that's how it goes.

Win some, lose some.

But just to be non-competitive was, uh...

Did it all come down to NIL money?

Yep.

That was a crummy game, and we'll see if, uh, if, if they can respond.

And it's, uh, what a game to respond in if, uh, if they do because it's the Iowa game.

How, how good is Iowa? Well, I think, I, I, I think they're good.

They're 5 and 1.

Um, they've got some quality wins.

They put 41 up on Washington out in Seattle.

Yeah

That was

... forced because pressure, uh, pressure came.

And he, he I think either was trying to throw it away...

I mean, he didn't throw it to anybody.

It was between two guys, and the closest guy was Oest, and then the other one was Jackson Howard.

Hit him as he threw and the ball flutters up and we get an interception.

Uh, uh, and, and, uh, that was, uh, Zach Harden, and that set the Gophers up in good field position as well.

Yeah.

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... um, he...

Uh, I'll say this.

They say, "Is that, is that really him?" And the answer is yes.

Um, and he hasn't changed one bit in regard to the pillars that I think he requires of his players in terms of Um, this is how we operate.

This is, um, the, the operation.

Uh, this is the flowchart.

Right

Nobody wins in Washington.

Yeah, I think they're not as good as what people thought.

And when the season started, a lot of people...

One, I looked at their schedule and thought, look, the Big Ten now, man.

I mean, even the Gophers.

They miss Ohio State and Oregon.

That was preseason one and two.

Nobody wins in Washington.

stadium, and you love that place, and it's going to be dark by the time the game starts.

It will be dark.

That's all right.

Nothing wrong with under the lights.

Nothing wrong with under the lights.

Yeah, that's a long day right there, 10 o'clock.

10 o'clock, Minnesota time.

Who was their coach?

perfect.

He's not.

I think they have to let him, if there's a chance to let him win a game for you, just let it fly.

Just let it go.

It's fine if you have to be risky at some point to get a win, do that.

Last year he had 18 touchdowns, 6 interceptions.

In a first-year starter in that league, the Big Ten plays really good defense.

Just makes the

Yes.

Yes, sir.

And look, he had a really nice red shirt freshman year.

I think it's pretty ambitious to think he'd this year-

[laughs]

Uh, that he would be a, a first-round pick.

Uh, it would be great because it means he played well.

It would be bad because it means you only got two years out of him.