Mike Clelland

Right.

And the example I always go back to is Mike Clelland says that there are real owls, and then there are strange owls.

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So tonight, originally it was going to be my co-host, my occasional co-host, Luke Saintclair, and instead we have with us Joshua Cutchin and Mike Clelland.

Hey, guys.

Hello.

Um, it took me a while after that to even really accept that I was an experiencer still, even as I was doing this work.

Um, you know, I'm, I'm really grateful to people, um, like Darren King and Mike Clelland, some of you in here probably are familiar with them, um, who are g- dear friends of mine who kind of helped me process through all of that.

Um, but yeah, it, it's been ...

I, I think that over the last five years of my life, that process of coming to terms with being an experiencer has been- Magical.

Now, join your host Sariah on this week's edition of Where Did The Road Go?

And you're listening to Where Did The Road Go? And, uh, finally, we have back both Aaron Gulyas and Mike Clelland.

Hello, guys.

Hey, how's it going?