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Oct 28, 2026
Jordan BlackGUEST
And it's taking...
Jordan BlackGUEST
With this business, we have people sending us things to go build, like a wire harness, and it's on Excel spreadsheets, it's on PowerPoint, it's on Visio, it's literally over emails, and go build this thing for me.
Jordan BlackGUEST
And then we have to go figure out how to go build it, and that's kind of like the gap that's there too.
Jordan BlackGUEST
And so we have to force standardization that's never existed before.
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Jordan BlackGUEST
This is what the problem is.
Jordan BlackGUEST
And they're being very told exactly what to do.
Jordan BlackGUEST
When I give someone an Excel spreadsheet that's like, or hand-drawn in Visio, it's like, go figure this out.
Jordan BlackGUEST
Like, the whole amount of training is going to go figure this out too.
Ben OsterGUEST
And so I think it's important that anything you're using to build threat models should be able to take effectively context from anything you want to give it.
Ben OsterGUEST
If you have a Visio diagram, great.
Ben OsterGUEST
If you have a Confluence page, great.
Ben OsterGUEST
If you want to scan a repo or a bucket or something in Cloudflare, like great.
Mike KanabyGUEST
We design out the process for future processes.
Mike KanabyGUEST
We used to subcontract that out to somebody that was an expert at Visio and I'd send it to him at five o'clock at night and by eight in the morning, it was in my inbox, absolutely beautiful.
Mike KanabyGUEST
Same with things like PowerPoints and data analytics and things like that.
Mike KanabyGUEST
We had a lot of subcontracted resources that we helped, but we've since in the last year built a lot of AI tools that really help us with all of those things.
Zach MillerGUEST
But if you have Ansible crossing three trust boundaries, they're not really a trust boundary.
Zach MillerGUEST
But on some Visio diagram, they are.
Zach MillerGUEST
And that's what gets approved.
Aaron CrowHOST
My guest, Zach Miller, a security engineer who studies the tools we trust most, the ones that manage everything else.
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Zach MillerGUEST
I think a lot of people see trust as a control or a boundary.
Zach MillerGUEST
But if you have Ansible crossing three trust boundaries, they're not really a trust boundary.
Zach MillerGUEST
But on some Visio diagram, they are.
Zach MillerGUEST
And that's what gets approved.
Darren PopeHOST
What we would do when you'd fill out your CVs and you would start listing out all of your tech tools.
Darren PopeHOST
And it would be Visio and Excel and...
Darren PopeHOST
You go like, really? Why would I hire you?
Viktor FarcicHOST
A long time ago, that was when I was young and still stupid.
Aaron CrowHOST
Right.
Zach MillerGUEST
But on some Visio diagram, they are, and that's what gets approved.
Aaron CrowHOST
My guest, Zach Miller, a security engineer who studies the tools we trust most, the ones that manage everything else.
Aaron CrowHOST
Kaisa, SaltStack, this year, Striker.
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Zach MillerGUEST
... they're not really a trust boundary.
Aaron CrowHOST
Right.
Zach MillerGUEST
But on some Visio diagram, they are, and that's what gets approved.
Aaron CrowHOST
Yep.
Larry BaileyHOST
or put it in an email and say, guys, you're asking me to fix a problem that's not my problem to fix.
Larry BaileyHOST
I need to know who's in charge of this workflow so that when I show you the workflow that they're supposed to follow, presumably a workflow coach, or if you've got a Visio document, or if you've got a Word document or Excel sheet, whatever the hell you're using, But the reason why I built Workflow Coach in a way that everyone can see is so everyone can see it.
Larry BaileyHOST
Now, you still have to have an owner.
Larry BaileyHOST
So I would say the reason why in Workflow Coach I changed it from a free type field to now it has to be a user at your company is to compel you to have that user in Workflow Coach.
Dustin SchwarzGUEST
The key is, is the thing that you're buying, is it real? Right? N-right now there's a lot out there, right? And you can with, you know, with automated code now, you can build something that like at face value looks real, operates.
Dustin SchwarzGUEST
Th-this is no longer, you know, Visio and, you know, a clever designer making a click-through demo that looks real.
Dustin SchwarzGUEST
It is real.
Dustin SchwarzGUEST
You click, it works.
Daniel KaczmarczykGUEST
And-
Ethan BanksHOST
So this, this isn't a Visio diagram.
Ethan BanksHOST
There, there's a lot more to this.
Alex La FaziaGUEST
[laughs]
Daniel KaczmarczykGUEST
And-
Ethan BanksHOST
So this, this isn't a Visio diagram.
Ethan BanksHOST
There, there's a lot more to this.
Alex La FaziaGUEST
[laughs]
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