Microman

Right.

And specifically, they were pulling from two distinct, completely unrelated Japanese toy lines called Diaclone and Microman.

Which, if I'm understanding the source material correctly here, means none of these toys had anything to do with each other initially.

Nothing at all.

I don't even know what they say.

It's, it's supposed to be Microman.

Um-

Oh, is that what they're saying?

Yeah.

Um, but yeah, that was, uh...

Yeah, yeah, Microman, Micro Change, which, if, if I remember my history collect, uh, correctly-

Collectly

And part of the reason for that, as you may know, the original Transformers toys were not actually created individually.

for the Transformers line, but were actually created for a number of other lines, Diaclone, Microman, there are others, in Japan.

Shockwave in particular was a design that was created more or less independently of most of the other Transformers toys.

So Bob Budiansky, who not only was writing the comic at this point, but actually wrote the bios that you would find on the backs of all the Transformers boxes, they're called tech specs, he no doubt saw that design, saw the lack of a face, and... whatever was going on in Bob Budiansky's head he decided this is the one that I want to make just a computer logical evil in a way that was setting him apart as different from other Decepticons

Yes.

He looks like Destro or a Microman figure.

Either one is a good comparison.

But just, yeah, I'm really going to be interested to see the finished thing because if that is what it is, I think I actually like that better now that you say it.