Michelle Morris

New Zealand has good tax incentives and screen grants, rebates.

And then after a while, I think they realised – I'm not quite sure whether it was just like they didn't have the wherewithal to make it in one country, but I had also met Michelle Morris in Canada who became our Canadian co-producer.

And then they figured out a co-production way that they could make it work.

Yeah.

Because if you go one way with one thing, then suddenly you have to make a decision the other way that you might not have wished you could have made or wanted to go the other way.

Exactly, and it's not for the faint-hearted.

I'm telling you from the perspective of somebody who has been in this process for a few years, but the producers, Michelle Morris especially, the Canadian side, she and Sushant Desai, they...

I had to get their heads around exactly how this worked.