that's amazing could you tell me too like about like that process of the business plan and then getting a loans because um did you have some support was there a program that helped you build that because you know like not many of us have that i knew that when i started my business that's what i wanted to do was build a business plan and they gave me an outline and everything and i was just i was stuck

Yeah.

That's where I would stop most people.

Don't think you have to write the business plan yourself.

If you go to First Peoples Economic Growth, and that's my entity here in Manitoba, but every province has an...

An IFI, Indigenous Financial Institution.

So they're all funded by NACA.

It will help you, actually, because your nervous system will be... calmer because you're just more grounded in who you are absolutely what what is one thing that has helped ground you or keep you like you know because because your business has grown and stuff like what keeps you you and and michelle and yourself My kids.