Michael Zucchet

I do wanna, uh, ask you, uh, how many of you listen to the Voice of San Diego podcast? [audience cheering] There we go.

Um, so we had Michael Zucchet, um, one of-- the leader of the largest city, um, employees union, and he made a point.

He said, "Look, y- when you look at your site and your presentation, you say if we went back to 2015 levels of staffing, population hasn't gone up much since then.

Staffing has gone up a lot." And his response to that was, "We've built a lot more parks.