It raises questions in my mind, for example, as you're talking, like can you give an example of a place with excellent social cohesion and is a high level of social cohesion itself potentially... an area where an outgroup, a minority that might be considered not within that social cohesion community, feels an even greater level of separation, umbrage and perhaps a tendency towards extremism.

Sure.

Again, this is one of the things that we sought.

In 2019, I was part of a multidisciplinary group here at ANU.

We won an ANU grand challenge and we were provided with some seed money and our project was on social cohesion, which again was surprising because it's really – you're absolutely right.

It's kind of come out of nowhere in the last sort of five or six years.

You used to never sort of really hear this term.

Because of all those things you've both just talked about, there are common links, which is the system, the country to which they've come, its legal system and its politics and architecture.