So, Mike, take it away.

Well, thank you very much for having me and appreciate the opportunity to talk about supervision and of course, our upcoming book that we hope will be out soon.

I don't have a specific timeframe, but it's going to be a comprehensive book on behavior analytic supervision.

And I'll give credit also to my two co-authors, which are Joseph Cotilli and Lynn Connor.

So it's been a really collaborative effort to put this very large volume together.

that we hope will serve as primarily a textbook for graduate programs and training of supervisors for various areas of behavior analysis, no matter what the behavior issue or problem is.

It's not going to be specific to any one type of behavior issue.

and how

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It was being done back in the nineteen twenties, right? So it go-- it has a long history.

He borrowed the procedure.

But in any event, that's sort of so, so Sidman, but he applied it to stimulus equivalence, and so you're doing match to sample procedures.

And so from there on, and I started an ABA program, um, folks came in from Kansas, uh, Walt Christian, P. Christian actually it is, started the May Institute, and a lot of his folks were working over at Northeast, and I was students of theirs, learned from that.

And then Sidman sent me on to a graduate program that he started down in DC, went there for a while [lips smack] and worked in that, that program, Institute for Behavior Research, and then from there I went on to a doctoral program at Temple University, which is where I met Jo and then eventually Lynn.

And [chuckles] we've known each other for like thirty or whatever something years.

Yeah.