Michael Springmann

A- and you're telling me now two of the guys involved in the 9/11 plot have the exact same name on top of it? But that's part of, uh, I believe the congressional investigation.

Now, did that come through J. Michael Springmann's approving the visas at CIA Jeddah station in Saudi Arabia? Or how did, how did that happen?

So that was somebody that was actually denied, and I'm not, I'm not even sure.

There's two lines about the person, and half of the line is still, um, censored, I believe.

I have no idea.

That's, that's the thing.

'Cause that was J. Michael Springmann's testimony, that they had told him that, "You gotta let all these guys through.

They're part of a project." And he signed a bunch of the visas, and then finds out afterwards he signed visas for terrorists.