Michael Penn

[laughs]

Number 28, Michael Penn, No Myth.

So, she says it's time she goes.

But wanted to be sure I know.

What if I were Romeo, young Frank James? What if I was Heathcliff, it's no myth.

Maybe she's just looking for someone to dance with.

Do we know Michael Penn? Have we met Michael Penn? What can you tell me about the Michael Penn?

Michael Penn was, came into the studio.

[laughs] And they stitched it together, and it looked great.

A fun fact, do you know who Aimee Mann's brother-in-law is?

Ooh, Aimee Mann's brother-in-law.

Her husband's brother.

Her husband's brother.

Love that song.

Michael Penn and Aimee Mann have been married since the '90s.

They've been a long, long time couple So Sean Penn is Amy Mann's brother-in-law

You were doing too much, uh, audience, um, what is it called? Chatter? What is it called when you talk to the-

Uh, betw- it's, like, it's the weirdest thing because, like, you, it's like, uh, it's almost like when a comedian opens up for, like, I, uh, I did some stuff opening up for Michael Penn and Aimee Mann, and-

Oh, yeah

... as great as they are, still the audiences are still like, "Why am I seeing a comedian before?"

Back on episode 38, we talked about some of the great power pop bands of the 80s that had the songs, but somehow never became as big as they should have.

The Smithereens, Marshall Crenshaw, Michael Penn, the Plimsolls, the Producers.

But those bands didn't come out of nowhere.

Before them was Big Star, the Raspberries, Dwight Twilley, the Rubinoos, and the Real Kids.