
Michael Kollo
Dr. Michael Kollo is Chief AI Transformation Officer at Qualitas and author of "Future Ready with Generative AI," with a PhD from the London School of Economics.
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Sep 27, 2026
144: Governance and Safety in Agentic AI – Discussing The Hugging Face Incident with Michael Kollo
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Michael KolloGUEST
I think the lesson for me, and as you say, it was a really interesting scenario, and I want to kind of add a few more details here, which is that these 1,200-odd agents that were being run, as you said, started to communicate with each other.

Michael KolloGUEST
But the message types were as if a bunch of 16-year-olds had like an after party after a formal or something like that, right? So it was very kind of juvenile in the way that they were talking to each other.

Michael KolloGUEST
So these agents had kind of been given these really, really difficult, if not impossible problems.

Michael KolloGUEST
And they were trying to work out how to succeed, including cheating and going around it.

Michael KolloGUEST
So it was really an example of what happens when you give an agent an impossible task.
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Wouter KlijnHOST
It's like, you know… Are we allowing it to transcribe our meeting? How do you look at that when you run these experiments, building systems? Do you think that we should ramp up the discussion a bit more? Are we falling behind?