Michael Jackson

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so whatever." And he's like, "Absolutely." And we made a beer, uh, called Beer Hunter last year in reference to Michael Jackson himself.

It went really well, and hopefully, since I've been in Germany for the last four months, there's still time this year to do a collab this year, but I definitely hope to make one next year as well.

Awesome.

But what we ended up finding is we actually almost liked these older beers.

So we at the Great American Beer Festival brought a number of older products, and we had in the same room Fred Eckhart, Michael Jackson,

the beer writer,

Charlie Papazian, Tom Daldorf.

But I did have a think about it.

And the first person I would invite is Michael Jackson, because I met him twice very briefly in my early years in the industry.

And on both occasions, I was introduced to him and just exchanged a few words.

But I have some of his books at home.

It's at this point it's worth noting that that's the traditional way the American amber ales were produced.

However, many beer writers, including my two favourites, Roger Protz and Michael Jackson, point out that this is no longer the case in the vast majority of breweries.

And in his book titled Beer Companion, Michael Jackson writes that many breweries have become lazy.

And then he goes on to state that brews described as amber range from a deep gold or bronze to a copper red.

Some are lagers, others ales, and the odd ones are hybrids.

It mentions that they exist, amber-colored ales.

but it gives no style reference.

Roger Protts and Michael Jackson, in their quite detailed books, only give brief mentions to it.

maybe

i just maybe i just like mccallan and oban you know like the things i had which is just funny to look back on but but legitimately i had it and was like not sure i like scotch and i had to sit on this bottle for like three months and then when this thing was still like half empty i um i got a book by michael jackson the whiskey writer yeah yeah um and i was going through it and he basically was like he was like have glendronic 15. it was just it basically was like just so good try glendronic 15. and he explained the sort of the history of ownership and how that affected what was going into Sherry and what was going into X bourbon and how like the 15 year revival was actually mostly a lot older whiskeys and stuff like that.

And I had Glentronic 15 and I was like, nope, I love Scotch.

I just hate that brand.