Michael J. Dowling

But it was the anxiety of like every time it was like they would say, we want you to do this.

I'm like, me? When Michael Dowling sat me down in a diner two or three years ago and said, did you ever think about throwing your hat in the ring for my job? I'm like, no.

You know, like it's never – So, but that anxious achiever kind of title kind of describes me a little bit in a way that I don't want to let people down.

Yeah.

Or we need somebody to help us think about emergency preparedness and all the, both the state and federal requirements, but truly how are we going to be prepared for that? the major mass casualty or a pandemic flu or whatever it is, I've always been someone that's leaned in where, A, I thought I had the right skill set, the operational mind, and I can make an impact.

Even if it wasn't something I was getting paid for or a title, just I always had that energy of wanting to contribute.

that led to larger and larger things but then when they asked me to do things like we want you to run all of emergency medicine i was like me or i want you to be i had to you always just have to take a breath and say well they asked me for a reason they see something in me and you just have to take a breath to convince yourself like it was even in the process of thinking about ceo and michael dowling asked me if i would consider throwing my hat in the ring but through the process when we had a very long process of selection and it, you know, they brought in a consultant firm plus a search firm and it was a committee of the board and it was a long process.

And I, through that process, by the end of the process, by the, I would say two thirds through the ways of the interview, through the work and the mental work and the reflection and reading books about, you know, what traits of best CEOs.