Michael E. Briant

Um, and so, um, they were actually, rather than having a big rehearsal period in the afternoon and then filming in the evening in a block, they did rehearse record throughout the day, which meant that it might have been difficult to have kept the Dalek props in good working order as they were going.

Also, having spoken to Michael Briant, ding, in 1995 in Amsterdam, Simon, you were there.

Oh, wow.

That's right.