Michael Chaney

Um, yeah, Johannesburg-based Goldfields, huge gold miner, international.

Um, an unsolicited $38.7 billion offer for Northern Star, uh, which the board, Northern Star led by Michael Chaney, um, absolutely shot down.

They said it's like severely undervalued Northern Star and its assets-

Mm

Um, I don't make an idiot of myself, but I know most of the senior management and that sort of stuff, and Ral doesn't mind, Morgan doesn't mind, um, that sort of stuff, so it's important.

One of the comments you made when you stepped off the Northern Star board was, um, talking to Michael Chaney, you know, you got, you got nine, nine board members around here.

It's...

What is the right number? Uh, like we, we talk about mining companies sort of in that cl-

Yeah, exactly.

So Michael Chaney is stepping down.

Always the plan to step down, but it has neatly coincided with Elliot coming on board and maybe Elliot sensed an opportunity there.

You've got Stuart Tonkin who was leading the minor and who looked like he was going to be leading the minor for a long time, it should be said, because I was at the AGM last year and they put in place some really long-term incentives for Stuart Tonkin.

And it was Richard Goida, I think, was the CEO of West Farmers.

And Michael Chaney back then was the chairman.

That's right.

So I remember getting a, and I knew Kate Chaney.

Right.

And especially Coles.

Though Michael Chaney was heavily involved in it, he's been involved in quite a few non-profits and adding value back to Australia to find a supplier in Coles that was running a significant non-for-profit Aboriginal company out there challenging businesses who employ Aboriginal people nationally.

Yeah, it was a good partnership for him to develop with us and that worked really well.