Michael Behe

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Well, in his book Darwin's Black Box, biochemist Michael Behe writes that in order to understand the barriers to evolution, we have to bite the bullet of complexity, he says.

He also adds, "To appreciate complexity, you have to experience it." And in his recent book Foresight, Brazilian chemist Dr.

Marcos Eberlin encourages us to dip a toe in the ocean of ingenuity, ingenuity that in our universal experience is wedded to a power unique to intelligent agents, and that's foresight.

And the comments on this show on YouTube were scathing.

Why are you wasting, to me, why are you wasting your time with these cranks? 2023, we recorded another show with you and John and Michael Behe, not the same topic, but similar topic.

and the tone of the comments was completely different.

Do you feel a change in the way you're being received? Is it generational?

Did you want to say anything about that, Scott?

I will say this, that when Michael Behe's book came out, and before him, William Dembski, he's a mathematician, and he wrote a thesis, a published thesis, on this idea of irreducible complexity, and then Behe argued that a great example of that is the bacterial flagellum, that all of that did really stir my interest, and I wondered, maybe, okay, maybe we found it, you And I'm still wondering about this, but if we really did find something that was irreducibly complex, we couldn't reduce it to simple steps, would that then be a blow to evolution being purely undesigned? I don't know.

But the point is, we haven't.

And the bacterial flagellum, like you said, it's been kind of the superstar of this.

But in our own discussions with Michael Behe, we came to... see that they seem to be in some kind of denial that this has been demonstrated to have evolved.

And that irked me.

Like, you were there too.

All right, let's talk about the video that actually caught our eye, and this one about the bacterial flagellum.

The third is design and fine-tuning in biology and cosmology.

Carey points to Michael Behe's bacterial flagellum, Hubert Yawkey's objections to the odds of life arising by chance, and Hugh Ross's long lists of finely calibrated physical constants, treating the accumulation of examples as evidence of a superintelligence behind the structure of life in the cosmos.

Arguing from the nature of cell design, Behe noted the presence of irreducible complexity.

In particular, Behe made famous the example of the bacterial flagellum, which appeared to be thin hairs with rotary motors made of protein that protrude from microorganisms, propelling the organism along.

We're, we're gonna tell this story in just a second here, but here's the real moral of the story.

The, the ultimate source of misinformation that led to this misquote, this fake quote of Michael Behe, was the Kitzmiller versus Dover ruling.

And so the moral, moral of the story is to reaffirm something that we've known for a long time, and that is that the Kitzmiller versus Dover ruling is full of errors about intelligent design.

And is really not a reliable source of information about ID.

And if you're gonna trust Judge Jones, trust the Dover ruling as a reliable source of information, you need to fact-check Judge Jones, and if you don't do that, you can actually get yourself in s- a serious sort of academic hot water situation, and you could get really burned by Judge Jones.

And sadly, I think that in this case, as we'll talk about, C.W. Howell, he relied on Judge Jones' Kitzmiller versus Dover ruling.

I don't think he fact-checked it, and because of that, he incorporated false information, this fake quote from Michael Behe into his book, and it really, really came back to hurt his scholarship.

So the moral of the story is to affirm something we always knew or we've known for a long time, that the Dover case, the Dover ruling is full of misinformation about ID, and you gotta fact-check it before you just quote it and blindly trust it.

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beHe could also get his 22nd consecutive point per game season.

He already owns the record at 21.

Extending it at age 39 would add another season to one of the most remarkable longevity records in hockey.

Why not get the salad instead of the cheeseburger? Have you tasted salad? But you have to understand that the whole terminology has grown up around these things, that they have to use the language of intelligent design in order to explain the fact that the universe is intelligently designed.

And the more we know in the macro universe, talking about astronomically and so forth, the universe, the more we know about the micro universe, where we're talking about genetics or biology or anything, Over and over again, the evidence comes back to there's an intricacy or what Michael Behe referred to as irreducible complexity.

That the universe is so incredibly complex that when Darwin said, well, the simple cell gave birth was the beginning of life, he didn't even know that there was a thing called a molecule.

in order to understand the complexity of the molecule.

And when they played this year, obviously, Scannamont, Beniaminock got over the line.

But for Behe, you know, it's a huge game as well.

You know, they have serious battlers and...

They won't like the fact that they're in this relegation to go down to junior.