Metenolone enanthate
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Oct 2, 2026
Paul BarnettHOST
Y- you, you save them for when, for when you need them, and that's kind of the way I look at, uh, look at cutting.
Paul BarnettHOST
A, a lot of times you can just get cheap fat loss from a slight caloric deficit, adding in a little bit of cardio, and just running basic tests and Masteron or Primobolan, a little GH or something, and run that until the wheels fall off, and then start layering in other stuff as needed.
Paul BarnettHOST
Now, that, that's typically how I, I approach things.
Paul BarnettHOST
I like the slow and low approach where we aim for one to two pounds a week of fat loss.
Paul BarnettHOST
Testosterone, GH are a good place to start, and then eventually you're going to need to, um, add secondary anabolics to it.
Paul BarnettHOST
Now, the reason we would add something like Primobolan or even Masteron or a secondary compound is to leverage the additional effects that those compounds have over just the testosterone.
Paul BarnettHOST
As the testosterone doses get higher, it's not just aromatization that becomes an issue, it's the androgenic effects of that, uh, that, that, um, compound and additional DHT conversion, so that's another thing that we have to consider as well.
Paul BarnettHOST
Push those testosterone doses higher, you're gonna have more DHT and androgenic effects as well, and that, which can also cause problems.
Paul BarnettHOST
Whereas Primobolan is select-- it selectively binds with the androgen receptor, has a lower androgenic profile.
Paul BarnettHOST
It, it's, uh, it, it tends to be, you know, more in favor of anabolism than, than an- androgenicity.
Paul BarnettHOST
So we have lower androgen profile, uh, it w- with, along with additional anabolic profile.
Paul BarnettHOST
The Primobolan is also going to lower, or Masteron if you wanted to go that route, are going to lower SHBG, which is going to make you, your testosterone, free your testosterone.
Paul BarnettHOST
My weight has increased from 162 to 170 pounds, my lifts are progressing, and I'm still relatively lean." Well done, David.
Paul BarnettHOST
"I'm considering gradually increasing to a maximum of 400 milligrams of testosterone and adding 300 milligrams of Primobolan and three to four units of HGH for an additional 16-week cycle within a seven-month growth phase.
Paul BarnettHOST
Is seven months too long for a bulk if I remain below approximately 15% body fat? How does the first cycle plan look for someone who's seeking slow, sustainable progress with the minimum effective dosages?" Um, yeah, I think overall this should be fine.
Paul BarnettHOST
You know, a long time ago, I used to...
Paul BarnettHOST
That is one downside of leaning into the DHT compounds is that if you, uh, tend to flatten out easy, if you get too carried away with them, you will get a flatter, harder, drier look.
Paul BarnettHOST
Now, is there some witch magic with them that, that goes beyond that? Not that I'm aware of, but, but it's kind of been well established in bodybuilding that this is the way to go if you want that hard, grainy look on stage.
Paul BarnettHOST
You lean into more like compounds like Primobolan, Masteron, Winstrol, um, even Proviron going into a show to get that hard, grainy look.
Paul BarnettHOST
You reduce your testosterone doses.
SteveHOST
uh probably because i probably gained a little bit of body fat i don't have much body fat left to lose but after mr olympia and all the cheesecakes and whatever i'm sure i'll restore some body fat for the sauna to burn off so that's available at disguised alpha code vigorous for 10 off i think uh stock might be a little bit limited initially but i believe that next week there's more stuff coming in so sometimes this stuff sells out fast if you want to give it a try then pause the podcast put your order in and come back in five minutes uh experiments updates let's see i'm on dht annotate and dht propionate it's going well so far i can't say that i noticed a difference between uh dht annotate and dht propionate like some people say that it's better for muscular contractions and pumps and rock hard erections and that kind of stuff um But yeah, it's clearly working.
SteveHOST
My skin is thinning and I'm having a better cosmetic appearance already two weeks after switching from Primo at 300 milligrams, give or take the 300 milligrams DHT propionate.
SteveHOST
Of course you get more DHT for the propionate versus the annotate from the Primo, but you know, the semantics.
SteveHOST
So that's going well so far, but I'll probably switch back to DHT annotate because it's just less injection volume, right? And DHT propionate is 50 milligrams for one milliliter.
SteveHOST
And each of the end of that is a hundred milligrams for one milliliter.
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SteveHOST
For some guys, too high of a dose is more than 50 milligrams.
SteveHOST
For me, 300 milligrams is totally fine.
SteveHOST
But I noticed after five weeks that it became harder to manage and then I wanted to switch to Primo so I could be back on DHT by the time the Olympia is.
Paul BarnettHOST
Yeah.
Paul BarnettHOST
It seem- seems idiotic that we're not, they're not allowed to prescribe Anavar or even Primobolan.
Paul BarnettHOST
I think Primobolan could probably be useful in a lot of-
Broderick ChavezGUEST
Absolutely
Paul BarnettHOST
... uh, clinical set- settings.
Paul BarnettHOST
Link is in the video description below, and I'll answer your question on the Q&A as well.
Paul BarnettHOST
James asks, "Can you provide a high-level overview of DHT Enanthate, including the-- its benefits, risk, and potential role in a cycle? Could it replace Primobolan in certain situations? And why do some experts recommend limiting its use to six to eight weeks?" I recently started playing with the DHT Enanthate.
Paul BarnettHOST
I wanted to see how it worked.
Paul BarnettHOST
I, I'm back on a cruise for me, which is three hundred milligrams of testosterone a week.
Paul BarnettHOST
It, it, it's crazy, and it keeps your estrogen in control.
Paul BarnettHOST
A lot of guys when they come down to TRT have estrogen rebound.
Paul BarnettHOST
One of my recent blood panels after coming off of Primobolan and Masteron, my SHBG has come back up.
Paul BarnettHOST
So it doesn't seem to suppress SHBG like, like Primobolan and Masteron does or Proviron.
SteveHOST
I had a great holiday.
SteveHOST
I only injected my testosterone and Primobolan and no other injections.
SteveHOST
So no growth hormone, no CT, uh, random numbers, the beta 3 adrenergic receptor agonist that needs to be injected.
SteveHOST
So the myricarin alternative.
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SteveHOST
Even though acutely you might not notice much of a difference as during a bulk phase, because again, during a bulk phase you're ramped up and the Cerebrolysin brings you down, and during a health phase you're already down-regulated, right, from a, a recovery protocol perspective, and it brings you down a little bit so you don't notice the difference.
SteveHOST
Uh, but I think it's better, you get more bang for your buck if you run it during a health phase, even though acutely you might not notice much of the benefits from it.
SteveHOST
I'm a high aromatizer on 200 milligrams of testosterone cypionate once a week and my fourth week of 200 milligrams Primobolan and Enanthate.
SteveHOST
How much longer do I have to wait for Primo to lower estradiol fully? If you're on your fourth week, that should be more than enough time for your estradiol to come down and normalize and stabilize, so now would be a good time to do blood work to see if this 200 milligrams test cyp to 200 milligrams Primobolan, right, uh, Methenolone Enanthate, is a good ratio for you.
Mike IsraetelGUEST
Insulin.
Mike IsraetelGUEST
Yeah, growth, insulin, and a shitload of Primobolan.
Mike IsraetelGUEST
Holy fuck, man, you're recovering like you wouldn't believe.
Chris WilliamsonHOST
Native rubber and magic.
Paul BarnettHOST
Um, even now DHT Enanthate would be another one you could potentially, potentially add.
Paul BarnettHOST
And if you were going to layer in secondary compounds, I would stick with the stuff that's safe and relatively well-tolerated, probably Primobolan, Masteron, maybe a little Deca for some sore joints if you have s- creaky and achy joints.
Paul BarnettHOST
But, you know, I think the responsible use would be to keep the doses lower.
Paul BarnettHOST
You know, keep yourself at the top end of the physiological range and, you know, mostly stick with the bioidentical hormones and stuff that is well-tolerated.
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Paul BarnettHOST
Primo is going to be a bit more anabolic than Masteron.
Paul BarnettHOST
Uh, Pr- Primo, I, I think overall, you know, it's going to be a mild difference between the two, but I'd say Primo is a better overall adjunct for testosterone since it has the added benefit of estrogen modulation.
Paul BarnettHOST
It also is more anabolic than Masteron's in, and so I d- I don't know why you wouldn't choose Primobolan over Masteron per- personally.
Paul BarnettHOST
I know there are dudes out there that like Masteron, and I use Masteron.