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Metaplanet Inc.

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Sep 12, 2026

John Lee DumasHOST
5:03
It's almost ridiculous, but I still don't feel like I own enough because this is going to be the most viable company in the world, in my opinion.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:12
Chris says, the best thing to have come from the MetaPlanet saga is that you best believe every management team from every Bitcoin charging company is now ensuring behind the scenes that their incentives are absolutely aligned with shareholders.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:27
Absolutely love this, Chris.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:28
It's so true.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:29
The MetaPlanet saga, if you guys haven't been following along that closely in just a real quick nutshell, it's come out that Their board and people on the actual Metaplanet team have been incredibly highly compensated.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:44
Their kind of take on this is that, hey, this was all set up before we became a Bitcoin treasury company.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:50
So it was all done and we announced it and it was public filings and blah, blah, blah.
John Lee DumasHOST
5:56
But the shareholders were like, whoa, whoa, these numbers are just too insane.
Scott MelkerHOST
27:52
But that was a hell of a way to start the week.
Scott MelkerHOST
27:55
In Bitcoin Treasury world, we also had a hell of a way to start the week when we had controversy from one MetaPlanet.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:02
MetaPlanet slides 17% this week as CEO's public note fails to ease investor concern.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:09
If you were not paying attention to what was going on in this story, oh, man.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:15
MetaPlanet basically revealed that they had a 20% allocation to their executive team.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:22
That seems kind of reasonable on the service, surface.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:25
The problem is, uh, their business is to dilute shareholders to buy Bitcoin, right? They sell MetaPlanet, create and sell MetaPlanet shares, much like Strategy does, and they use that money to buy Bitcoin.
Scott MelkerHOST
28:36
And as long as Bitcoin per share goes up, this is accretive and it's not generally dilutive.
Anthony PowerHOST
12:52
Literally, we saw so many companies come out at once trying to follow the strategy, strategy to coin a phrase, or Michael Saylor's strategy, and sort of have had some challenging times.
Anthony PowerHOST
13:04
You know, MetaPlanet and Nakamoto are two that sort of like stand you know as sort of you know ones that were really highly thought of initially and then the share prices really took a beating since those early days and so maybe it was you know there's a bit of faith lost there but yeah In terms of BitDigital, we know that the Ethereum, their choice of crypto to hold on their treasury position there and having one of the largest treasury positions in Ethereum, all they can rely on now is really the price value of Ethereum increasing.
Anthony PowerHOST
13:44
It's just a challenge.
Anthony PowerHOST
13:45
The market's not giving them any credibility for holding that.
John Lee DumasHOST
8:29
See you on Mars.
John Lee DumasHOST
8:30
And this is MetaPlanet's basically announcements of what they are doing going forward.
John Lee DumasHOST
8:37
And I'll get more into this in a second here because we have a great post by Brian that says, Significant concessions on the 10th series options from the MetaPlanet team.
John Lee DumasHOST
8:47
It was rolled back to the prior IEO.
John Lee DumasHOST
8:49
The remainder was canceled.
John Lee DumasHOST
9:06
The IEO is the clearest dividing line when management interests diverge significantly from shareholder interests, and one I myself called for as a natural rollback point.
John Lee DumasHOST
9:16
Metaplanet still has work to do, but I see these as positive steps in the right direction.
John Lee DumasHOST
9:21
And this is, of course, in response to Simon's letter to MetaPlanet shareholders that just came out because there's been a lot of individuals on Twitter and in a lot of ways they were very right in a lot of things they were saying that the compensation that was being rewarded to board members and people on the not just board, but actually also the staff of MetaPlanet was not just too rich.
RichGUEST
40:02
So that's the market sentiment driving prices there.
RichGUEST
40:06
But still, Metaplanet, even though it's got a lot of bad juju in the market right now, I'd say it's probably a pretty good buy, 70%.
RichGUEST
40:15
That normally trades significantly higher.
RichGUEST
40:17
And you might remember from a couple of years ago, it traded like 8x 7 or 8x and now which would be like 800 premium so if you buy this thing at 70 discount you sell it at 80 or 800 premium like the significant return that you have denominated in bitcoin where you sell that meta planet share and you buy bitcoin or you buy a bitcoin etf so what i'm doing because all this is my 401k i just trade in and out of the etf i use my etf as my as my base and And then I'll trade in a discount and they'll sell out at a premium and buy more of the ETF.

21 MINS LATER

RichGUEST
61:28
You're beating it.
MarcusGUEST
61:29
You're beating it by a little in a bear market.
MarcusGUEST
61:31
Like the long-term thesis has to be like, if you're buying MSTR right now, if you're buying ASST right now, if you're buying Metaplanet right now, like I don't care honestly what your metrics tell me right now.
MarcusGUEST
61:42
Like just me using my common sense, it's all going to be worth more in two years.
Daniel PrinceHOST
3:55
It's insane.
Daniel PrinceHOST
3:56
And then the financial engineering on top of that, so Metaplanet have started falling over and there'll be more.
Daniel PrinceHOST
4:01
there will be more it's just back to basics um if you're following what's going on on the other chain the blake 2b chain uh they are there's exchanges now that have listed them under the ticker it would seem xbt Again, be aware of phishing attempts from your wallet providers.
Daniel PrinceHOST
4:24
You might get a phishing email that says, if you want to claim your coins, make sure you click this link, and then make sure you input your seed phrase so we can match the amount of coins, and then boom, it's gone.
Scott MelkerHOST
24:28
held in hope for the best.
Scott MelkerHOST
24:30
Um, and so a lot of them have obviously been under fire, but I would say that the one that's been the most under fire this week has been MetaPlanet.
Scott MelkerHOST
24:37
So, uh, you know, I've covered this already, but MetaPlanet stock tanks over ballooning executive share pool and more, I mean, to my understanding to, for the, for the, for the audience in the most TLDR terms at a 20% share pool for executives.
Scott MelkerHOST
24:50
And that, uh, rose with their dilution of shares that they were using to buy Bitcoin.
Scott MelkerHOST
24:56
So they effectively went up 600 percent in their share count.
Scott MelkerHOST
25:08
And there's been, I think, a lot of very fair criticism.
Scott MelkerHOST
25:11
And I think that all Treasury companies, when these things happen, you kind of got thrown in the bucket and you had a great very long explanation of why you're different.
Scott MelkerHOST
25:19
So I would love to unpack what happened with MetaPlanet and your thoughts on it.
DarkPANELIST
24:48
Look, for me, you know, I've just been around long enough and seen so much in the Bitcoin space, right? Like, we've seen it all, from BlockFi to Celsius to FTX to Mt.
DarkPANELIST
25:00
Gox to, you know, like NAKA, now MetaPlanet.
DarkPANELIST
25:04
Like, you know, it's just one after the next after the next.
DarkPANELIST
25:08
So for me, you know, there's just one play, right? And that's trying to figure out how to create OPSEC and how to...

51 MINS LATER

speaker_16PANELIST
76:30
I was in crazy land and then, uh, listening to you guys.
speaker_16PANELIST
76:33
Um, I think I-
TerrenceHOST
76:33
Were, were you selling your MetaPlanet? Is that what you were doing?
speaker_16PANELIST
76:36
I was selling, selling a little MetaPlanet.
Jackson MikalicHOST
47:17
michael before before you go too like some people may not have the full context the high level gist of it is that There is a niche Japanese structure that essentially allowed for, because people know, I think generally speaking that these companies have pursued a strategy of just issuing a lot of equity to purchase Bitcoin.
Jackson MikalicHOST
47:38
And so this structure that MetaPlanet has is essentially non-dilutive to the management team.
Jackson MikalicHOST
47:45
So they're able to issue more equity without diluting themselves while they're diluting all the shareholders of the company.
Jackson MikalicHOST
47:51
And not to mention the compensation package tied to that is significant and the strike price is low.

6 MINS LATER

Brian CubellisHOST
53:30
take hate listeners.
Brian CubellisHOST
53:31
That's totally fine.
Jackson MikalicHOST
53:32
Listen, I promise you my compensation structure does not look like MetaPlanet's.
Jackson MikalicHOST
53:38
But let's talk about a few unfortunate things.
UlricHOST
70:22
But as much as 20% of the potential buying power to buy Bitcoin went to basically lining his pockets.
UlricHOST
70:31
Phil, that's bad publicity for MetaPlanet.
UlricHOST
70:35
But MetaPlanet has a history of bad publicity.
UlricHOST
70:38
They've had their fair share of... of callous and and short-sighted advertising uh where they were giving away bitcoin uh for their for their meta planet event when bitcoin was in the middle of a of a of a downturn and people are like you're gonna be spending money give away bitcoin how about you just keep that money in your in your coffers so you don't so we don't go to zero uh says meta planet holders it's like I think a lot of these entities need to hire better decision makers.
UlricHOST
71:10
This is an executive problem.
PhilHOST
73:01
I don't remember which document this would be in.
PhilHOST
73:03
I don't know if this would be in an 8K document or something like that.
PhilHOST
73:07
Wait, if it was prior to them being MetaPlanet, then it would have been in an S1 document.

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