Men Going Their Own Way
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Sep 18, 2026
FabianGUEST
This argument exists on both sides.
FabianGUEST
It's both active, like the 4B movement and MGTOW, as well as the black pill movement of incels and femcels, checking out of the dating market because they have given up hope.
FabianGUEST
This solves nothing.
FabianGUEST
Players.
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Rollo TomassiGUEST
Number two is this.
Rollo TomassiGUEST
Well, there's, [laughs] there's plenty of best practices and plenty of, quote-unquote, solutions in the red pill.
Rollo TomassiGUEST
They usually take the form of MRAs, uh, MGTOW, black pill, uh, th- let's see, uh, passport bros, uh, white pill, God pill, money pill, whatever the fuck Mike Cernan is, and, um, I, you name it, okay? Everybody has their own best practices because what they do is they take the information from the red pill, and then they turn that into, "Well, I know this stuff now.
Rollo TomassiGUEST
This is what I think we ought to do with this." And if you're a black pill doomer, you go f- throw up your hands in disgust and say forget about the whole thing, or if you're a pickup artist, you go, [claps hands] "Rock and roll.
Rollo TomassiHOST
And you got Aaron Rodgers here, Hall of Fame quarterback Aaron Rodgers, I might add.
Rollo TomassiHOST
And, of course, what's the first thing you see online from all the MGTOWs and all the Doomers and all the Black Pill guys?
KyleHOST
Well,
Rollo TomassiHOST
if Alan Richson can't make it work...
BirdHOST
Well, I don't even...
BirdHOST
I wasn't even going MGTOW with it.
BirdHOST
I'm just saying, like, it kind of feels like a lot of this discourse has been done before.
BirdHOST
What are we learning? What are we learning that's new? Why are we keep acting surprised? They are only
MikeHOST
Hey, Nate.
MikeHOST
What's that? Nate, are you an MRA? Are you going MGTOW on me?
NateHOST
No, man.
NateHOST
No, man.
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Fucking
Ben AveryHOST
MGTOW cunts.
Ben AveryHOST
MGTOW.
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Yeah, they have the magma ones.
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Uh-huh.
Leonard SaxGUEST
[laughs] And there are- Mm ... scholars find four components to the manosphere.
Leonard SaxGUEST
Men's right activists, pickup artists, MGTOW, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way, M-G-T-O-W, and incels, involuntary celibates.
Leonard SaxGUEST
And the most toxic elements of the manosphere are MGTOW, Men Going Their Own Way, and involuntary celibates, who refer to women as femoids, which is short for female humanoids- Mm-hmm ... saying they're not fully human.
Leonard SaxGUEST
The most prominent incel is Nick Fuentes, who recently said that women can be mothers, whores, or nuns, and that is all they can be.
Leonard SaxGUEST
They cannot be inventors or businessmen.
Leonard SaxGUEST
I have no interest in them.
Leonard SaxGUEST
I'm a man going my own way.
Leonard SaxGUEST
You know what I'm talking about?" I said, "Yeah, MGTOW, Men Going Their Own Way.
Caleb JonesHOST
And even if you think you're clever and smart and you're a nonconformist, say, oh, I choose not to play.
Caleb JonesHOST
I'm a MGTOW.
Caleb JonesHOST
I choose not to play.
Caleb JonesHOST
Wrong.
Caleb JonesHOST
They're listed in no particular order.
Caleb JonesHOST
First one, a very popular one today called incel.
Caleb JonesHOST
otherwise known as MGTOW, or Black Pill, or Monk Mode, or there's various other names of these guys trying to sound cool that they don't fuck girls.
Caleb JonesHOST
Apparently that's a cool thing now.
Paul BauerHOST
I don't know a single soul that doesn't love a great pair of tits.
Paul BauerHOST
Even women love a great pair of tits, right? That's why, you know, it's funny in the men's podcast space, there's a lot of like MGTOW guys that are like, you know, like, you know, why is it that breast cancer research gets billions of dollars in research and prostate cancer barely gets, barely gets, you know, any attention at all? It's like, well, everyone loves a great pair of tits.
Paul BauerHOST
No one gives a shit about prostates except for men.
Paul BauerHOST
Okay.
Brian SauvéHOST
And they just say opposite whatever.
Brian SauvéHOST
You get the MGTOW stuff.
Brian SauvéHOST
And then there was this opportunity in a door.
Brian SauvéHOST
where you see they're trying to answer the question, what grounds all of these insights? What is true? Okay, if that's not, if the predominant order is not truth, if it's not light, then what is? And you can either turn at that juncture to Darwinism and pickup artistry and hedonism and all these things, or you can turn to something like Christianity, or you can turn, there's other things too.
Leonard SachsGUEST
I'm a man going my own way.
Leonard SachsGUEST
You know what I'm talking about? I said, yeah, MGTOW, M-G-T-O-W, men going their own way.
Leonard SachsGUEST
This boy, this young man is perfectly happy, as near as I can tell.
Leonard SachsGUEST
And I talked to him for an hour with his pornography, his girlfriends.
Leonard SachsGUEST
And he's part of this online world, the Manosphere, a community of men who disrespect women.
Leonard SachsGUEST
And they share notes with each other and they reinforce each other.
Leonard SachsGUEST
Men going their own way, pronounced MGTOW, is a component of the manosphere of men who want nothing to do with women.
Leonard SachsGUEST
And they have communities.
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