Yeah.

You know how I told you I grew up really obsessed with science and the natural world.

And the f- there had been a few things written about those women, but nothing that really talked about them as botanists, you know, really talked about the scientific work they did.

Um, and I knew from the start if, you know, if they had done this catalog in 1938, well, that's, that's pretty important.

That's an early catalog that tells us a lot about how the ecology has changed.

Um, so I really wanted that to be my focus going in, like centering them as botanists, and I had a lot of fun writing about the plants and, you know, looking through their plant list and seeing what they found.

You know, they found, you know, very early records of tamarisk and tumbleweed, which was not, you know, uh, today of course it's everywhere down there, but at the time just here and there, you know, early records of those non-native species coming in.

And so, uh, moving on a little bit, uh, you have done some speaking and stuff, and tell us a little bit about your presentation speaking or, or what, what, what you're up to there.