Melissa Deckman

it.

Yeah, but like, what are religious voters sort of like thinking, feeling? I mean, like we spoke with Melissa Deckman recently, the CEO of PRRI, the Public Religion Research Institute.

I always get that messed up.

And she kind of gave us like some bit of a snapshot about sort of like, hey, what are white evangelicals thinking, you know, feeling and whatnot, but like...

Is the religious vote up for grabs? Which voters might be changing their minds, and where are we mistaking headlines for actual movement in politics? And joining us again, one of our favorite guests on the show, is Dr.

Melissa Deckman.

She's the CEO of Public Religion Research Institute, PRRI.

She's a political scientist who studies how religion, gender, and age shape American politics, and the author also of The Politics of Gen Z. Melissa, welcome back to Faithful Politics.

But I wanna agree with you.

Um, Melissa Deckman is somebody I interviewed, uh, just about two months ago, and Melissa Deckman is the president of PRRI.

Yeah.

And Melissa Deckman is, is a sociologist who, who knows this data better than anybody.

And you can ask-- You can see Melissa Deckman's writing all over, whether it's Newsweek or, or any other place, and, and she has said definitively, "If you look at the data, there is simply no case for religious revival in this country." Anyone telling you that is telling you a myth about what this country will be rather than anything based on present realities.

That's number one.

And Sam Harris said similar things, right?