Melissa Cross

that's awesome.

And real quick, I also did want to bring up Melissa Cross because I took vocal lessons from her.

And when did you go? I

was probably

When did you start using a vocal coach and what was like the main thing that you noticed or even struggled with in the beginning, like taking like a feedback or changing this that kind of helped preserve your voice?

I worked with Melissa Cross on Death Below Record.

And a little bit before that, she's phenomenal.

She's really great.

Very cool.

um from grade school all the way up until the end of high school I worked with one singular uh vocal coach um Mr. Wiltz and he was definitely made me able to fine-tune and you know learn all the the techniques and whatnot you know and then obviously I was And I was fortunate enough to, to work with Melissa cross on the distortions and stuff.

And it just, she was able to take me to a whole new level and amazing.

Third, I would probably just have to say like, like probably my family, like my husband and my kids kind of as a unit, because they're so wonderful and supportive.