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Melanie Klein

Melanie Klein

Austrian-British author and psychoanalystWikipedia

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Sep 10, 2026

Nancy McWilliamsGUEST
75:32
So psychoanalysis has evolved a lot since its original Freudian development.
Nancy McWilliamsGUEST
75:38
Some important people in that evolution have been Eric Erickson, Melanie Klein, Harry Steck Sullivan, Donald Winnicott, contemporary people in the relational movement like Stephen Mitchell, the self-psychology movement, which is very much about self-esteem by Heinz Kohut, Otto Kernberg's work, on internalized family dynamics in patients and psychoanalytic general technique has changed over time.
Nancy McWilliamsGUEST
76:21
When I was first trained, some supervisors put a lot of emphasis on trying to be a blank screen because the idea was if you were not giving the patient much information about yourself, the transferences would be easier to see.
Nancy McWilliamsGUEST
76:37
You know, if you said rather little and the patient immediately assumed you were critical, it would bring out the transference.
Todd McGowanGUEST
38:07
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Todd McGowanGUEST
38:07
Melanie Klein, for instance, certain psychoanalytic thinkers that, that think in that direction.
James EllisHOST
38:12
What, what does that drive, like, t-turn into when, when it's seen as self-sabotage and not just aggression? You see what I'm saying? Is, if aggression is take- is understood as an innate drive, a universal-
Todd McGowanGUEST
38:25
Yeah
Don CarvethHOST
0:44
So I was trained in the late 70s, early 80s here at the Toronto Institute of Psychoanalysis, trained largely in Freudian ego psychology.
Don CarvethHOST
0:59
Melanie Klein's work was really not taught in Toronto, unlike Montreal where expat Canadian Clifford Scott had gone to England and worked with Melanie Klein for many years.
Don CarvethHOST
1:13
He was president of the British Society and after his presidency he returned to Canada, not to Toronto, but to Montreal where he trained several generations, especially of child therapists, but adult analysts as well in Kleinian theory, but not in Toronto.
Don CarvethHOST
1:31
So I had this Freudian ego psychology training and I therefore thought of what I was doing as really attempting to help people make the unconscious conscious.

29 MINS LATER

Don CarvethHOST
31:07
You know, it's the patient's session, but occasionally he will share with the patient something about his life or something that he has gone through or something this builds the connection it builds the attachment it builds trust it builds therapeutic alliance and patients benefit from this that is my belief so Call me a relational analyst.
Don CarvethHOST
31:45
I guess in terms of technique, that's what I am.
Don CarvethHOST
31:48
I'm a relational analyst who loves Freud and Melanie Klein.
Don CarvethHOST
31:55
Okay.
Tom WooldridgeGUEST
16:57
Yeah.
Tom WooldridgeGUEST
16:58
So, I mean, I think if you think about attachment theory, it's really an outgrowth of psychoanalysis, right? John Bowlby was very much connected to Melanie Klein and writing and thinking kind of in response to, in conversation with her.
Tom WooldridgeGUEST
17:11
So he developed his ideas and out of psychoanalysis, but also as a kind of counterpoint to the analytic theories of the time.
Tom WooldridgeGUEST
17:19
The interesting thing about attachment theory is that it's easily operationalizable and so easily testable, right? It takes some of these ideas and puts them in a form that you can then run experiments and validate them.
speaker_1HOST
8:32
They did.
Manaan KarrayHOST
8:33
Melanie Klein, for instance, focused less on the lost object and more on the crushing weight of guilt and survivor dynamics.
speaker_1HOST
8:41
Klein's work heavily explored the development of a highly punitive, sadistic superego.
speaker_1HOST
8:47
She postulated that certain depressed patients are fundamentally terrified that their own innate destructive impulses will somehow damage the people they love.
Roger BrookeGUEST
8:41
I would, let me, if I can add to something about that, I would say that I tend to hold, think of theory as opening up lines for the empathic imagination.
Roger BrookeGUEST
8:51
So for me, for example, Freud and Klein, Melanie Klein, talking about envy and have theories of envy where it's penis envy for Freud and breast envy for Melanie Klein.
Roger BrookeGUEST
9:08
And I think if we sort of simply think, well, we stop theory and listen anew, I think we'll miss an awful lot.
Roger BrookeGUEST
9:19
I don't think Freud and Klein on envy are useful as sort of theories which are sets of ideas which explain a phenomenon.

22 MINS LATER

Roger BrookeGUEST
31:25
So we can think of that when people complain about a bad mother.
Roger BrookeGUEST
31:30
Well, maybe the mother was bad, and we, as therapists, I think, we might really need to acknowledge that.
Roger BrookeGUEST
31:37
I mean, Winnicott and several of his followers said to Melanie Klein, you know, there really are such things as bad mothers.
Roger BrookeGUEST
31:45
I mean, it's not all a projection.
speaker_0HOST
5:52
Joseph also gives a tiny little bit of this theoretical background.
speaker_0HOST
5:58
Um, she is a Kleinian.
speaker_0HOST
6:00
You might have already heard that, you know, from keywords like reparation.
speaker_0HOST
6:04
Her theoretical foundation of object relations is based on Klein.
speaker_0HOST
9:04
That's the term Joseph uses.
speaker_0HOST
9:07
If there's a happy baby, there's an ideal object, and if there's a frustrated baby, it relates to a dangerous object.
speaker_0HOST
9:14
So that the one mother, that's one of, um, those, like, standard Kleinian assumptions, that the one mother actually becomes two in the baby's experience, and one is, like, the ideal mother that always satisfies me, and the other is the dangerous, frustrating, persecutory, uh, threatening mother.
speaker_0HOST
9:35
And those feelings are, in her own words, split and absolute.
speaker_1HOST
28:12
The therapist soon realized that Freud's map didn't adequately explain the raw chaotic terrors of severely disturbed children or issues that originate before a child even understands what society is.
speaker_0HOST
28:22
That is the wall Melanie Klein hit.
speaker_1HOST
28:24
Right.
speaker_1HOST
28:24
So Klein takes us further back in time, away from the father's rules and into the absolute matriarchy of the very early mother-child relationship.
speaker_1HOST
18:36
Kinnett emphasizes that Winnicott believed everyone has a capacity for creativity, characterized by the ego actively engaging with and symbolizing the objects around them.
speaker_1HOST
18:46
Klein's idea, mentioned by Chowdhury, fits here too.
speaker_1HOST
18:48
A key element is the capacity for symbolization.
speaker_0HOST
18:51
And Klein's perspective adds another layer about the mother-child relationship.
speaker_1HOST
18:55
Yes, Klein really focused on that very early bond.
speaker_1HOST
18:58
She saw primary creativity right at its heart.
speaker_1HOST
19:02
She believed that in the earliest stages, the baby experiences this sort of illusion of divine omnipotence.

28 MINS LATER

speaker_0HOST
47:24
Wow, that's a lot to wrap your head around, isn't it? Let's move on to K.

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What Happens When You Can’t Hold What You Feel?

Aug 23 · 1 Mention

speaker_1UNKNOWN
4:11
But he doesn't just calmly observe her because under extreme emotional pressure, the mind's ability to handle nuance just collapses.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
4:20
This is a concept originally introduced by Melanie Klein and it's called splitting.
Susan QHOST
4:24
Splitting, okay.
speaker_1UNKNOWN
4:25
The mind basically says, you know, this complexity, me being a capable person who is currently failing, it's just too painful.

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